How to get a top Quant Researcher/Trader Job?

Hi everyone,

I was wondering how hard it would be to get a top quant job at firms like DE Shaw, Two Sigma, AQR, Citadel, etc. I currently go to a semi target (rising sophomore) as a math and CS major (possibly removing one and inserting physics). I've also been looking at tech, which I'm also interested in, but I would rather take a quant job because the bonus is usually cash, not RSU, and the work is just as interesting. I feel like having cash on me to invest right away and pay off student debt is the better choice.

I have a high GPA and have taken some advanced coursework in math, CS, and physics (Probability Theory, Real Analysis, ODE, Data Structures, Intermediate Mechanics). I plan on taking the putnam in the winter and I am taking the putnam seminar in the fall along with Abstract Algebra, Number Theory, and Computational Complexity.

My main concerns are: 1. If I'm qualified at all. 2. My school is not targeted by quant firms at all (I think) so should I try to transfer? Most of the people getting hired over here are grad students, but undergrads elsewhere are being hired. 3. I'm also looking for any other suggestions on good finance firms and jobs for me. 4. Will building a good reputation on sites such as topcoder and codeforces help me? 5. What should I be doing right now?

~any help is appreciated

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"Math-Fan" I have a high GPA and have taken some advanced coursework in math, CS, and physics (Probability Theory, Real Analysis, ODE, Data Structures, Intermediate Mechanics). I plan on taking the putnam in the winter and I am taking the putnam seminar in the fall along with Abstract Algebra, Number Theory, and Computational Complexity.
"Math-Fan" 1. If I'm qualified at all.
Most likely "no". In fact, most certainly "no". But it should not prevent you from trying.
"Math-Fan" 2. My school is not targeted by quant firms at all (I think) so should I try to transfer? Most of the people getting hired over here are grad students, but undergrads elsewhere are being hired.
Most quant shops (including mine) want people that have at least a masters degree and some experience. It's hard to get into this business without experience and it's pretty hard to be in the business without that experience. The proverbial chicken and egg problem. Ideally, you want to find a good place to learn and later leverage that knowledge on your own, but that type of environment is hard to find.
"Math-Fan" 3. I'm also looking for any other suggestions on good finance firms and jobs for me.
Well, that really depends on what you are planning to do - it's anything from high freak type stuff (boring and techy) to machine-learning-big-data-hybrid-blah at pretty much any bigger fund. Then there is a question of the asset class and many many more. The general idea is that you can be a total failure in a top name shop if their setup is not a good fit for you.
"Math-Fan" 4. Will building a good reputation on sites such as topcoder and codeforces help me?
Not unless you want a pure programming job.
"Math-Fan" 5. What should I be doing right now?
Many things, least of them worry about how to get a quant job when it's 3 years away :)
I have a friend who lives in the country, and it's supposed to be an hour from 42nd Street. A lie! The only thing that's an hour from 42nd Street is 43rd Street!
 
"Math-Fan"bonus is usually cash, not RSU

At big tech companies RSUs are pretty much cash. Your W2 income will still be pretty juicy - general guidance is auto-sell upon vest.

Was obsessed with finance, now do product in tech
 

most investment banks have quant developer roles seeking a variety of experience levels. I see many roles for masters and phd degrees with specific math/programming skillsets.

For example, i see a bank interest rates swaption desk is looking for a quant developer to work on exotic pricing and hedging models with Python, R, Matlab ect... This is a great role if you want to get into trading interest rate swaptions. After 2 years in this role, the natural progression is to move onto the swaption trading desk, if you were so inclined.

The same scenario applies to other trading desks. Just find job listings for a specific type of desk, you will see mentions of needed skills (building curves, specific option models, monte carlo, etc...). So, find a role (or a few roles) that interests you, and then make sure you take classes that teach those skills. Then you will easily be able to get a quant developer role for one of those, and then you will have many career options (no pun intended).

just google it...you're welcome
 

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