Apply third time after 2 failed attempts (interviews) of securing offer for same group?
I networked very hard to secure an interview for off cycle at a BB in a coverage group I have a internship background in. I wasn’t able to convert the interview to an offer although I had positive feedback despite missing 1 technical and doing well on story/behaviourals. The feedback after the first interview was highly competitive, and it was very close. Next month rolls by, I see an opening for a diff off cycle (someone potentially reengaged) and I email the team, in which they pull me to an interview for that pod. I wasn’t able to convert but HR gave me the generic feedback of highly competitive environment etc. Would it be a terrible idea to reach out again in the event of another requisition on their team for a pod after not being able to convert 2 interviews into offers? I felt like I clicked well with the team, and this is a specific coverage I’m interested in.
TDLR: Is it a terrible idea to apply the 3rd time after being rejected twice? Thanks guys. Please post your perspectives. In the interim, I would be working on my gpa and doing relatable unpaid work to gather experience in the group.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, it's not a terrible idea to apply a third time after being rejected twice. Here's why:
1) Persistence can pay off: It shows your determination and passion for the role and the company. It's not uncommon for candidates to be successful on their third or even fourth attempt.
2) You've received positive feedback: This is a good sign. It means you were close to getting the offer. Use the feedback to improve your performance in the next round.
3) You're gaining more experience: By working on your GPA and doing related unpaid work, you're becoming a stronger candidate. This could make a difference in your next application.
4) You've built relationships: Networking is a crucial part of the job search process. The relationships you've built could help you in your next application.
Remember, the key is to show WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE YOU LAST APPLIED AND WHY YOU ARE NOW A BETTER CANDIDATE. Make sure most of your cover letter is about this.
However, keep in mind that every company has its own policies about reapplying. Some might require you to wait a certain period before reapplying, while others might not have such restrictions. It's always a good idea to check with the company's HR department about their policies.
And remember, while it's great to be persistent, it's also important to keep your options open and apply to other companies as well. You never know where you might find the perfect fit!
Keep swinging, champ! You've got this.
Sources: Q&A: Re-applying to MBB and getting an offer, Advice for Princeton MFin Applicants, BCG No Offer - "Good Fit, Good Case, Not Creative" - Can I reapply in 6 mos / or now to a different office??, Applied with new email after rejection. Offered interciew again
Just do your best man
Go for it. Some bankers like to see dogged commitment and a “never give up” attitude. Worse thing that can happen is you don't get the interview, which you wouldn't have anyway if you didn't apply.
If you get the interview, make damn sure that you come prepared ie knock the behavioral and technical questions out of the park. For the behaviorals, prepare for the same questions they asked you in the past plus the 400 guide. For technicals, review the same questions they gave you in your last two interviews and try to anticipate the rest.
Since you’re an associate, you wouldn’t be annoyed at the fact some guy tried to reach out twice- and couldn’t convert the last 2 interviews, and is now reaching out a third time for an interview? You’d be chill w that?
If you don't apply again - 0% of getting an offer.
If you apply again - small chance of getting an offer.
Seems like a no brainer
Hi there,
I had an Associate asset management interview today and aced it but after I had to do a quick excel test/basic data formula's/manipulation for 15mins, I unfortunately got way too nervous and only completed half of it and just froze, as I did really well on the interview, would they pass me regardless? OR would they pass me and weigh the interview more than the test result? Or would they need a certain benchmark result for the test in order to pass me/even consider the interview?
Also, should I ask them if I can re-do it or shall I wait for them to come back to me and see what they say?
Please let me know your thoughts below.
Thanks
Personally I would just not do it. It makes you look desperate and even if you get it, they will probably pay you less knowing that. I would come back to them after a few years so the relationship has time to reset and you have improved your skillset. That will be a much different conversation than you pestering them every couple of months about openings.
I disagree with this and agree with what the associate posted above. I believe (and this is my own opinion) that applying again shows grit and a little rejection won't stop you. You can spin it in your behaviorals as something like "while I didn't get the position the first two times, this is a place I want to build my banking career and I'll keep applying until I get the position." Something like that
If it really is a step up in your career I guess you could go for it. I'd just think that after a certain number of failed attempts you're probably ruining your image in front of that team and they won't take you seriously in the future either.
If you have any stories of students pulling off a similar stint, that’d help as well. Or if you can provide the dialogue of interviewing a student for the third time could sound like amongst a team when judging the decision.. (I’d assume it’s black or white, either very annoyed or inspired).
Yeah, totally disagree with this. Most obviously, who cares who you’d like desperate to? For another, you’re just another application to them - no way they track it so strongly that they say “wow, this guy again.”
at the end of the day, it’s important to remember - at worst, they say no. At best, they give you an offer. Talk about asymmetrical upside
I would say do it, no one is going to care if you apply a third time. Worst that happens is you don’t get the job (then I’d probably stop trying in that group)
For context I applied for an off cycle internship at a shop I had an in at, made it to final rounds (no offer) and then ended up getting a FT offer at that same bank during FT recruiting.
can I ask if you had previous experience in IB and what your overall gpa look like as well. This would be my first IB internship (my prior was relatable but not IB) so definitely think my chances are quite limited.
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