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Why did you gun for banking in the first place? I assume you networked, spoke with peers, read around online and knew what you were getting into? Not hating, curious because seems like that's what most of the target recruiting pipeline is like now.

My advice to any young'un I meet is pursue what interests you. Really think about what you want to do and what you would enjoy doing, in the long run, you'll still make money. Once you have a handle on what that is, hit the pavement like you did for banking recruiting. Will be easier now that you're not a student anymore. 

 
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My advice to any young'un I meet is pursue what interests you. Really think about what you want to do and what you would enjoy doing, in the long run, you'll still make money. Once you have a handle on what that is, hit the pavement like you did for banking recruiting. Will be easier now that you're not a student anymore. 

Eh.....this is kind of outdated boomer advice in my opinion. We can't all go start art studios, become history professors, and be musicians if we are really talking about what interests you.

Here's a much more practical approach. Do something that you don't hate. You don't have to love it, but you can't hate it either. Go to work doing this thing, collect a paycheck, and then spend the rest of your life enjoying your family and other interests with that paycheck. Your entire personality does not need to be wrapped up in your work. 

 

That's a very one dimensional view, career opps aren't black or white of being corporate or going doing something artsy / teaching. It's finding an opportunity in a space or role you enjoy that best leverages your skills. That kind of view is why you have all these unhappy kids coming into roles and wanting to quit months in.

Nobody has to love the job, but it has to pique you enough to want to go in everyday and excel so you can maximize your paycheck. People only chasing a paycheck or something esoteric like prestige come onto forums like this and make posts like OP did. We've had no shortage of those this year.

If you like sports, go try and break into a corp fin / corp dev / strategy / partnerships / operational role at a team or league (I tried this, lots of interesting opportunities). Just looking at my circles, same things for music, gaming, art, beer/wine, Internet / media, fashion/beauty, outdoors / lifestyle. 

 

This implies that about 99% of the planet is miserable. Guess what? Most people are not going to be able to find a role that they enjoy. If you set your whole life around finding work that you enjoy, you're setting yourself up for dissapointment.

Much more achievable is finding something that you don't hate and are good at and then building your life outside of work. That's achievable for everyone and much more likely than scoring an open corp dev position at your favorite football team.

Also, you're contradicting yourself in your own posts:

"That's a very one dimensional view, career opps aren't black or white of being corporate or going doing something artsy / teaching."

And then you finish off by saying:

"If you like sports, go try and break into a corp fin / corp dev / strategy / partnerships / operational role at a team or league (I tried this, lots of interesting opportunities). Just looking at my circles, same things for music, gaming, art, beer/wine, Internet / media, fashion/beauty, outdoors / lifestyle."

You essentially list a lot of arts and fun oriented stuff that most people won't be able to do which is my point. Definitely take a shot at applying for these positions, but my point is that you are not relegated to unhappiness forever if you don't find an enjoyable job like corp dev at a gaming company. You can work a normal job that you don't hate and live an enjoyable life with family, friends, and hobbies.

EDIT: Side note also for this discussion, I know a lot of people who have jobs that they really enjoy: artists, musicians, etc. A lot of them are not happy either. A lot of them later in their careers get bored and tired as well. Your work is not the solution to your happiness. There is not a magic job that you get and your life is all rainbows and unicorns.

 

Lol, I'm just trying to tell OP that there are options in fields that they might find more interesting. Not that there is the ultimate happiness or fulfillment in a job, just enough of an interest that they're not in the same miserable position again. Again, not that black and white.

I listed a bunch of fields where there are I personally know there roles for people with our kind of skillset. I didn't say go be a musician or a vintner, not sure why you read it that way or think those are not areas we can get into. Have had finance friends move to like the music royalties business, winery rollups, fine art investing. There are a lot more exit options than PE and corp dev if you look. 

 

Yeah buddy there are not a lot of slots for finance people in music royalties business, winery rollups, etc. That's my point.

You are offering a niche solution to a general problem. A tiny tiny percentage of people will get these sorts of jobs. Hence, it is not a good solution for 99% of people.

Not that there is the ultimate happiness or fulfillment in a job, just enough of an interest that they're not in the same miserable position again. Again, not that black and white.

Yup, that's why I note that you should find something just interesting enough that you don't hate it. If your only offered solution is find a finance job at a winery or record studio, then chances are VERY good that they will be miserable because there are very few of those types of jobs available.

My advice is a lot more open ended and works. Find fulfillment outside of your stupid career and begin living your real life.

Edit: Furthermore, note that this sort of advice like "work finance for a winery" is for the priviledged. How am I supposed to find happiness if I'm a truck driver, restaurant worker, or guy making widgets at the factory? If finding work you love is the narrow solution, then all of these people are screwed and relegated to a life of misery. That's why you have to think about what makes you happy outside of your work as your key driver and make work at least tolerable. Otherwise, most of the planet is condemned to misery as work is called work for a reason.

 

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