Can you write?

Anyone else that's still in undergrad, or even in the workforce, get bothered by the fact that most people can't write worth a damn? I'm not talking about being able to compete with Shakespeare, but just putting together a simple, cohesive sentence. I have like 5 group papers due this week and reading some of the shit my group put together makes me weep for my generation. Almost nothing really bothers me, but for some reason this does...

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I think it comes down to how much reading you do...a lot of younger people dont read now...too many competing distractions. I love to read but even I find with movies, ever increasing number of quality tv shows, internet, sports, other hobbies, socialising my reading often gets cut down to the commute to and from work.

 

There is a saying from the movie Bad Boys, it goes like this "everybody wanna be like mike" which is true who wouldnt want to be like mike in that movie? Rich, funny, smooth, gets the ladies easy ect ect. The problem with dumb ass kids is simple they all want to be like mike but they end up using the wrong mike as a role model.

They use the paris hiltons, like omg I have a ugly dog in my purse. The constant urge to make their texting more efficient, brb i b n da store. That coupled with no common sense what so ever merges together and makes for the horrible state of young peoples writing today.

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I can't write to save my life, but it is something that is my own fault for things mentioned above. I didn't matter in high school but now in college, it is a huge bitch.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

I had to proof read my friend's admission letter to medical school. Afterward, I didn't want to be her friend anymore.

Just pick up some grammar books and study it on your own time. Also write a blog, it will improve your writing skill tremendously.

 

Agree with OP - for example, how the fuck was writing 101 so hard? I mean, anyone could come to a different conclusions than the instructor and take a hit on that point, but lets see:

  • read something
  • think about it
  • write an intelligible response.

How is this so difficult???

Get busy living
 

My parents just preached "readers are leaders" from infancy. Cannot stress this enough, and if I'm ever at the point of having kids, you can put money on the fact that I'll stress it with them.

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The solution is also strikingly simple - sit down and start reading. Expand your mind and develope an interest or two. Learn about things other than just enough BS to scrape by in school.

Get busy living
 

The same thing happened to me this past weekend with group projects. I spent hours fixing papers, sometimes I don't even know how people are in college if their grammer is so terrrible.

"One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger
 
cplpaynesometimes I don't even know how people are in college if their grammer is so terrrible.
The irony...
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cplpaynesometimes I don't even know how people are in college if their grammer is so terrrible.
The irony...

Sorry, I do not proof read my posts.

"One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger
 

Writing is something I take pride in, whether it is a post on FB or here. I always try and craft out prose in the most efficient manner. I also read a lot and that is a definite style influence, whether it is FT or Pitchfork- it is neither here nor there; good writing is good writing...

 

In a 1950's, '60's, '70's high school english class, the students would literally just drill grammar books for 4 straight years. Nowadays, a high school english curriculum consists of reading about the plight of the common man and it stresses creativity over structure. This is why people cannot speak or write today. The only high school I know that still drills grammar is Boston Latin (arguably one of the best public schools in the nation). They send about 11 kids to Harvard every year. Go figure.

 
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SDBall22In a 1950's, '60's, '70's high school english class, the students would literally just drill grammar books for 4 straight years. Nowadays, a high school english curriculum consists of reading about the plight of the common man and it stresses creativity over structure. This is why people cannot speak or write today. The only high school I know that still drills grammar is Boston Latin (arguably one of the best public schools in the nation). They send about 11 kids to Harvard every year. Go figure.

This guy is spot on. During those decades, grammar was imbued into the children of that time. Now it's all Shakespeare, Chaucer & Ayn Rand "classics"...

The key to better diction is to read; the key to appropriate syntax is to study basic grammatical rules. However in our western society we have deemed it more important to synthesize concepts revolving around numbers and de-emphasized the importance of communicating clearly.

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vadremc. de-emphasized the importance of communicating clearly.
Dats cuz we can txt now bro. u jelly?
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I don't understand why public schools do not just drill grammar into kids. This is what other countries do. In the United States, they just indoctrinate kids with inequality and love stories. Guess the government does not want people to clearly express their minds.

 

I've always had trouble writing very wordy essays. I don't see the point by including unnecessary information. I like to get to the point in as little words as possible. Its not that the content is lacking quality, it lacks quantity.

 
General Disarraythe amount of college students that do not know how to properly use their, they're and there...along with too, two and to is heartbreaking.

blackfinancier does this ALL of the time. Everytime I try to give him some constructive criticism, he gets all defensive.

"Cut the burger into thirds, place it on the fries, roll one up homey..." - Epic Meal Time
 
vadremc
General Disarraythe amount of college students that do not know how to properly use their, they're and there...along with too, two and to is heartbreaking.

blackfinancier does this ALL of the time. Everytime I try to give him some constructive criticism, he gets all defensive.

This is almost comical not once have you given me constructive criticism, also I'd NEVER get defensive.... but good try
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There was an article in the NY Times a couple days ago titled "The Default Major - Skating Through B-School". Talks about the lack of learning that takes place in undergrad b-schools. So true. At my b-school anyway.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/education/edlife/edl-17business-t.htm…

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I don't know whether drilling grammar into students is the solution. I went to school in France and was taught French Grammar for 10+ years but I learned how to write in English by reading stuff online (starting around 1995 or so) and writing papers in English class (1998 on). By the time I was in college (in the US), I was one of the best writers in my entire school and professors noticed the quality of my writing on every single paper I wrote. The only thing I did differently from most people was read. And not just great literature either. The more you read, online or not, the more you understand what style and proper grammar are.

 

I'm generally a good writer and wrote lots of good college papers back in the day. But I completely agree - I'm reading a lot less now and noticing a deterioration in my writing fluency. I have to pause a lot more now to think about how to phrase things as opposed to words just naturally rolling off the pen. Also, with all this technology and spell-checking, my spelling is also slowly deteriorating. I recently had to look up whether "transferring" was spelled with 1 "r" or 2.

The fact that I spend a lot of my time on a finance board with a bunch of retards probably doesn't help haha

 

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