Jefferies IB vs. Stifel IB vs. Goldman Ops

Hey everyone, I'm a junior at a non-target school. I have SA offers from Jefferies IB (NYC), Stifel IB (NYC) and Goldman Operations (NYC), all obtained through extensive networking. I want to take the Jefferies offer, but my career center is strongly advising me to take a position at Goldman because of the importance of branding and that I have a better chance at securing a FT offer at Goldman Ops, which is important given I am from a non-target school. They said that the Goldman name would open up doors down the road at other companies, and especially for B-school. This is the first time I am hearing this (I really do realize how this may come off as trolling....), and am fully aware non-target career offices may not have the best advice. They were quite adamant that they were right. I wanted to ask this forum if my career center's advice has any depth to it? Which offer should I take? I prefer Jefferies to Stifel - can Jefferies offer exits to PE, other roles in finance and/or business school? Does Goldman's brand, even if I would be doing Ops, confer that much of a career advantage over IB at a middle market firm?

 

I disagree. How many times are you going to be able to have Goldman on your resume? I'm close with people at the firm and it's highly likely you'll be able to transition to a different role at the company. Also, you don't want to be networking again next year - a higher offer conversion rate helps protect you from that happening.

They're really big on keeping their employees to boast their low turnover rate.

 
FutureBanker214:

I disagree. How many times are you going to be able to have Goldman on your resume? I'm close with people at the firm and it's highly likely you'll be able to transition to a different role at the company. Also, you don't want to be networking again next year - a higher offer conversion rate helps protect you from that happening.

They're really big on keeping their employees to boast their low turnover rate.

This is absolutely horrible advice and obviously from someone who hasn't worked a day in the industry.

Any half decent IB job is miles better than opps and both of those names are perfectly good, especially Jefferies.

 

Goldman hands down. The above dude is right, I know of a lot of people who've switched internally to other roles. GS HCM is very accommodating - getting the most prestigious company in the world's name on your resume isn't too bad either

 

Are you set on doing IBD? If that's the case, you should take JEF IBD and don't look back. I honestly don't even have an idea about what Goldman Ops is about, but I can guarantee that it will be much easier for you to lateral from JEF IBD to GS IBD then to move from GS Ops to IBD.

 

As someone who worked at GS, in a much better and more technical role than Ops (but not IB), it is only easy to move around the firm within your division. Occasionally the credit risk guys find themselves in ECM, or market risk or treasury guys on a securities desk, but it's still rare. If you're in ops, your ability to move around the firm will be extremely limited. So if you want IB, do Jeffries.

 

Jeffries is a very good MM shop with solid exits.

Goldman ops is an email queue with trades that didn't settle properly. This is from friend who worked in ops there.

Edit: I actually applied to Goldman ops and was turned down. Best thing that ever happened to my career.

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You would not believe the insane advice non target career centers give.

The last act is tragic, however happy all the rest of the play is; at the last a little earth is thrown upon our head, and that is the end for ever.
 

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