List of Sleeper Targets for NYC
People keep thinking that IB is Ivy/top business program or bust. Would you guys consider these schools as sleeper targets:
Kelly - for sure if you're in the IBW Colgate - OCR interviews for almost all interested in IB (10-30 people) NESCAC's Top 4 Liberal Arts - Claremont, Williams, Amhrest, Wellesley Villanova - not really a sleeper school BC - great placement Fordham - in my opinion, it's a semi target, but if you keep your grades up, the location will make it a target
For Fordham, when you say grades up, how high are we talking about?
Does Fordam legit have students working in FO roles on the Street.
Ignore if answer is obvious. Thanks
YES Fordham Legit 100% sends kids to FO roles on the street. and GPA wise were talking 3.7+. I know plenty of upper classmen who will be doing BB IBD, S&T, no so much ER and AM but you see some here and there. A lot of us do boutique IBD internships during the year. OCR isn't phenomenal, but its good for underclassmen looking to get their foot in the door of any kind of finance role. Super easy to go to networking events and meet with senior people at banks during the day and get back to class on time. PM if you have more Q's about Fordham.
Syracuse grads are all over the street primarily because it's a decent, fun school that not very smart, well off kids can get into.
Baruch, Rutgers, Fordham, UConn, the NE liberal arts schools, all do well on the street. PSU honors college as well.
Nice answer. What about a dude who gets admitted to a very new MS Accounting and Fundamental Analysis at Columbia - serious question.
Would I be considered equivalent to those grads, or in my view in between them and NYU / Columbia MBAs?
Please answer
Not sure about the West Coast / East Coast comparison, but Baruch Alumni here and placement has been fairly good for the past few years if you are a grinder. (Majority of the Financial Leadership Program (FLP) Alumni have placed FO roles)
Edit - Still wouldn't consider my school a target though.. you really have to grind/network/intern throughout college to make it.. OCR is limited to only a few BB's (JPM/BAML/MS/CS)
UG they don't do too poorly, for an MBA it is an utter non-target / waste of money.
That's what I figured.
Tried to convince him not to waste 50k on a part time MBA, but he is convinced that just having the credential is what's important. With that logic, a Harvard MBA = university of Phoenix MBA.
Oh well
For black people above a 3.0 GPA...Howard University and Morehouse College. Think about for a bank doing diversity recruiting, wherelse could you go to a place with thousands of black educated males interested in business. My friends told me that its a cake walk with OCR at those schools.
Of course not. There are many non-black people at historically black colleges and universities.
How does a Bentley or Babson get viewed - semi target?
Just under a semi target. If youre near the top of your class then you will have the same opportunities as semi-target kids. the difference i'd say is that you don't have as great of a margin for error- you might only get a shot or two to capitalize on your opportunity whereas at a semi-target youll have a better plan B if shit hits the fan. Youll have to work a little harder to differentiate yourself but it definitely won't close a lot of doors if you find yourself at either of those institutions.
Can't speak on behalf of Babson but at Bentley they really want you to pursue accounting due to their presence within the big 4. Professors try to channel everyone to accounting by making banking sound like an intimidating industry. It also attracts a wealthy student base which is always helpful because you can establish connections with your friends' parents.
wtf is just under a semi target? how many layers of "target" do you think there are?
The "target" stuff is getting out of control. I think i'm going to classify my school as 1/12 of a target.
Ok time to fix some common errors on the thread I started. First of all, everyone who is dissing on the London university, don't. American BB and EB has many analysts from the Core 5. Maybe the one you are planning to attend is lower because LSE is obviously the most recruited one. However, it's like comparing Haravrd to Brown. Both are great schools, some people are just flat out snobs by saying that Brown is not Ivy League caliber
Second of all, Villanova is a sleeper school. It's always considered as a semi target even though its placement is amazing.
Third of all, Baruch in my opinion is a semi target not a target. And Rutgers is a non target. I personally respect Baruchs quality of education at a small price for NY Residents, but it's nothing compared to Fordham or Syracuse or even PSU.
Third of all, stop posting west coast nonsense. No one wants to hear about schools from which you can make your way to NYC. I'm talking about sleeper schools that are targeted specifically for NYC. Sure, if we include these schools where we can make it to NYC we can include UGA, Chapel Hill, and the West Coast schools, but they don't recruit directly to NYC as much as the schools we've been talking about. They are clustered specifically towards Charlotte Texas Atlanta and West Coast Banking.
Last advice, don't go to Bentley or honestly, even Babson isn't a target. Babson has OCR from BNP Paribas and has a student run fund + great I Banks in Boston to intern at. Bentley is just ultra accounting. For Big 4 accounting experience, it's the best one in the country. Yes the best one. But definitely not the best option when compared to Babson for IB.
Please don't go to Holy Cross. Sure it's private, good religious education, but it's placement is absolutely bad.
ALSO FOR THE OP CONSIDERING NOVA MSF GO THERE! It's great if you haven't gotten into Ross stern the Ivy leagues or southern Ivies (duke, Vanderbilt, Emory)
If you're really just looking for Semi-targets near "NYC", then I would consider Fordham, Rutgers, Villanova, BC (if you can get in, 100% target, even their Econ program is well regarded if your not in Carroll). If were talking about Semi T schools that will place "in" NYC then that is a very extensive list because there are a good amount.
Boston College is an interesting cateogory. Right below "target" school, but above "semi target." Carroll is great. Every firm and bank recruits there and sends kids to MS M&A and GS TMT. I'd personally call it a target school, but some ivy league elitists might personally be offended by my statement.
You yankees worry way too much about what university you go to.
Target Schools Princeton, Harvard, Wharton Yale, MIT, Duke, Stanford, UChicago
Semi-Target Schools Columbia, UPenn (econ), Dartmouth Cornell, Brown, Ross, Georgetown Northwestern, UVA (McIntire), Vanderbilt Notre Dame, Stern, Boston College, Indiana (Kelly)
Non-Target Schools All the rest
Probably missing some schools here and there, also didn't include west coast schools.
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