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Former military. Very easy to brush it off. Doesn’t bother me. Way less stressful that the military and because of being able to handle the military life, many people are surprised how easy I push back on things, draw lines with MD’s. The maturity, leadership experience and stress handling the military gives you is a HUGE help
Former varsity athlete. I will definitely say that the pressure and desire to succeed in sports was much more meaningful, and enjoyable compared to IB. I've been trying to search for that meaning since tbh. I will say that the skillset and tools which allow you to handle the pressure in sports are definitely transferable to IB. In addition the work ethic, attitude, and competitive drive learned in sports are what really carry you through high stress jobs.
Speaking my mind! All the things you mentioned helped, but it’s hard to find meaning. The other thing I will say, at least for me, it was a lot easier to put in 80 hours a week into the sport I loved and had fun playing every day. It was barely ever grueling vs. IB where 75% it’s brutal. Discipline, attitude, mental strength all help greatly to make the hours easier, but I miss the passion.
Lol if you're in Toronto we should grab some liquid therapy and chat about it sometime
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Am pretty ignorant when it comes to military. Points = West Point?
Didn't think the hours were that crazy but fuck do I know, see above.
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No experience but had to say I love your user name and pic-what a cute lop-ear!
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I think the day to day "pressures / stress" from banking is nothing, whether it's the hours or someone trying to chew you out. I feel like there is a marked lack in a sense of purpose though, and definitely has me questioning whether I want to be doing this in the first place. Also it is time consuming so there is that voice in the back of your head thinking this amount of time and intensity in my life might be better used elsewhere (though I don't know where, hence a new kind of stress really)
11b is infantry right? Mad respect.
I've heard this same purpose comment from vets I've worked with. "Orders" and "objectives" so to speak are often nebulous with lots of maneuverability, and they seem to struggle with that initially. I can only imagine the challenges of moving from a defined structure like the military to one that is a bit more free flowing.
I would never compare military service to college sports but I did have the first 3 scoring plays of my career in Michie Stadium against Army so feel free to thank me for my service.
I recently mentioned in another post that one of my big takeaways from athletics, really at any level, was leadership skills in a team environment. If you're aware, you realize pretty quickly that people respond to things differently. The boisterous, vocal, kick in the dick might be what's needed to get the best out of one person and that same approach might cause another person to shut down. Figuring out what buttons to push (i.e. punch vs. hug), and when, is something that directly came from athletics and has helped me as I've advanced in my career.
The other thing that helped me a lot early on in my career was the experience of being the low man on the totem pole. Being a freshman on a team is not the easiest position... you're constantly shit on, drinking from a fire hose, insecure, inexperienced, and likely less physically built than the older people on the team. It is uncomfortable. It's also exactly how I felt as a junior banker and, having gone through the experience in athletics, I understood and accepted that I have to pay my dues, learn my role, earn respect, and go from there. It's the idea of "life doesn't get easier, you just learn to handle hard better" (Kara Lawson, Duke WBB coach had a good speech on that).
Another thing is having humility beaten into you at a young age. The locker room is a full-time roast session and a constant ego check. Learning how to laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously is hugely valuable and something a lot of people in this industry are missing.
The last thing I can think of is the experiencing defeat. A game where your opponent was simply better, or your individual matchup had your number. They were stronger, faster, more skilled, and there was literally not a single thing you could do, in the moment, to come out on top. It fucking sucks but learning how to accept defeat, or accept the fact that there is always someone out there who is better than you is a good lesson (similar to the humility point).
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