MIT Sloan MBA Opps
Hey Everyone,
MIT is obviously a top tier school, but I was wondering how it placed in IB and PE roles (just the MBA not UG)? Given the school is known for science research, is it still a viable school if one is interested in private equity and not trading? If I had the chance to attend would I have to network on my own in order to get those positions?
Separate question: is it common for banks to let you do an MBA as a senior associate and come back as a VP?
Thanks a lot.
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My general advise for these sort of things is that someone here might give you their opinion but honestly you never know who is actually posting replies and what their experience level is. Best way to see what people with an MBA from MIT are doing is do a search using LinkedIn's filters. Otherwise from what I have heard MIT is a great school and any M7 school will give you most of the opportunities you want. I think the second question's answer will always be firm dependent.
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Best bet is to check their employment report (as you can do with any top MBA programmes). It's the most accurate indication of placement since the data comes directly from students. As the poster above said, I wouldn't trust opinions from random users because they'll typically be biased in some way.
With regards to your other question, why would you want to do an MBA after being promoted to an associate? Isn't the entire point of it to compensate for a lack of analyst experience? However, while it isn't common for that to happen, I'm not sure how a bank would react to the proposition of leaving to do an MBA in-between Assoc and VP.
Got it thanks. I’ve seen the employment reports for a bunch of schools but it doesn’t tell the whole story since it’s always a small portion of students that gun for PE. It doesn’t say how many students went for PE and couldn’t get interviews/offers.
Regarding the MBA to become a VP it was just a thought I had. Maybe the bank wants you to go build a network before becoming a VP, is that a flawed perception?
I see, I would imagine that M7 programmes would all have a great chance at interviews. Unfortunately it's probably nearly impossible to tell how many tried and failed! That said, I'm sure with prior IB experience you'd get a look from most top PE funds.
With the MBA before VP, that's actually an interesting thought! Maybe an EMBA would make more sense in that case because the students are older and may have some power over decisions. If you think about it, the network from a normal MBA would likely be too junior to really help generate fees within 5 years (i.e. most become consultants). I guess you could talk about it at the time, but in my view, unless you need it for progression or for an exit, it's a massive opportunity cost at that level.
MIT places fine in IB. Not a traditional feeder so may need a little more legwork than Booth / Wharton / CBS, but you'll be taken very seriously.
For PE, no school will help you get into PE if you don't have the right background, not even HBS (a very slight over-exaggeration, but 90-95% true). So if you have quality IB (preferably IB + PE) background or consulting with good due diligence work experience, it will be a very big longshot and I wouldn't count on it. You might be able to work for a firm during school and land an offer that way, but I still wouldn't count on that.
MBA as senior associate and coming back as VP...nope, doesn't happen and probably won't happen.
Sloan is a great school despite all the no's I'm responding with. High caliber students.
got it thanks man, I don't understand why there's a difference in how IB and PE perceive an MBA. Why do some PE's make it a requirement to have an MBA to move up when your an associate and IB's don't?
Not OP but just the nature of the game. Typically IB is seen as the main pre-requisite to exit into PE. If you scout LinkedIn's for any worthwhile PE firm, would say 90% of people have previous direct IB experience.
IB - analysts get into IB from undergrad. Don't want to sound too judicious but the "WSO outlook" at least is that the top quartile analysts leave for PE/HF. Therefore A2A promotes are the "analysts that didn't interview well" along with the MBA hires that, via the MBA, upgraded from their old careers (industry work, Big 4, etc) to IB. Once you get into the firm, generally the only requirement to move up is to a) not suck at your job and b) put in the hours. For the MBA hires, IB is "the goal", not the stepping stone that analysts see it as toward PE. You'll see that for MBA hires - even HSP - that get hired into say, GS/MS, even they rarely make the jump to PE. Simply put, MBA hires without prior IB/consulting/PE experience aren't looked favorably upon for PE roles.
Then, if you think about it, the people at the bottom of the the totem pole for PE are the cream of the crop analysts with IB experience. Most PE's have a 2-and-out program as well, where senior associate promotes are more rare, and typically upward mobility comes as a result of hiring these target applicants with 2 years IB experience and MBA stats.
Would like to once again caveat that this is the "WSO outlook." My personal prestige is that prestige/what you "should do" matters much less the older you get. And similarly, PE is so competitive with what is becoming similar pay brackets that it's probably easier to make a cushier living working in IB as a senior professional. Sure, if your goal is making $10mm a year (with likely no life outside of work), then IB will probably never do it for you and you'll need PE/HF for that. But if your goal is making $400k a year sending your kids and wife to country club dinners and only working 45-50 hour work weeks, then becoming a senior VP in IBD in a satellite city is probably best
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