Moving from non target to UCL

Currently studying Econ at a non target in Ireland. I have the grades for UCL Politics / UCL History and I am debating if it is worth the move from a career standpoint. 

Does anyone know if these courses are strong enough to get into IB? I get that in theory its a yes, but in reality how often does it happen?  

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What the ever loving fuck is that other guy’s problem?!

Anyway to answer your Q yeah I think UCL in general. Big asterisks here because UCD might have strong placements into e.g. AIB IBD, and I am not familiar with Ireland’s prestige tiers.

But in general UCD will not really get you in anywhere on the London side of things I wouldn’t think. UCL will mean someone might actually at least pause on your CV for 0.5 seconds.

 
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Strange post and strange replies.

I'm familiar with both unis recruiting so will weigh in.

UCD Econ is fine, same as any other semi-target. UCL politics won't make a difference in ur recruiting situation. Some irish people don't seem to get that UCD is in fact a semi-target and instead believe it and Trinity exist in their own bubble.

Tonnes of UCD and Trinity folk on the street. Some UCC/limerick less so. 

The same rules that apply to say mid-tier semis apply to both UCD and Trinners . Econ and Finance guys in UCD and MSIS guys in Trinity say that you have to be in those courses but it's classic undergrad shilling BS.

The misconception is believing their hype, I know Trinity STEM guys on the street and people from UCD that weren't in the Economics and Finance circle-jerk. Don't let their smacktalk faze you.

 

I agree with your take but UCC/UL aren't semi-targets tbh. Don't know if you were trying to say that.

I think the problem lies in the fact that UCD Economics and Finance and Trinity College Dublin's MSIS (maybe Trinity Maths but I'm not sure on that one) are objectively very good courses for semi-target level (TCD is a sister college of 2 Oxbridge colleges) and attracts some the brightest kids in the country that wanted to stay in Ireland for Uni and not try their luck abroad. Some of the students in these 2 courses (which actually have quite small headcount) also tend to be quite full of themselves to put it mildly, as the previous commenter alluded to, mainly because of a mixture of ignorance and bravado. The end result is you have some people mixed up on causation and correlation as well as a lot of people giving completely unqualified advice. I can count on one hand the amount of people I know personally that have the full picture on recruiting from Irish unis without mixing in some untruths/ urban legends as well.

As an aside both schools have excellent alumni with UCD standing out for how helpful they seem to be to one another.  Both of them could definitely put some semi-targets to the sword in terms of academic chops/ quality of students if not in terms of how many 18 year olds are there who want to spend 4 years grinding to get a job. As people on WSO have said some Irish students want to work in Ireland and the students in the 2 schools focused on working in IB is relatively low compared to how many would be able to in theory. Maybe Irish people understand the meaning of life?

I'm going to make a deep-dive post on the Irish recruiting situation as its quite clear that UK prospects/ randoms are quite happy to give their own opinion while the Irish kids don't seem to have a clue about recruiting. Maybe because IB isn't historically a big industry in Dublin City ? Don't know the exact reason but I plan to put the record straight as it irks me more than it should when I see James - TCD 18' MSIS just doing a stream of consciousness every time Irish Uni finance recruiting comes up on WSO.

There is no shortage of people on WSO willing to give their opinion without the relevant knowledge and this problem seems to be almost uniquely exacerbated with UCD and "Trinners".

 

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