Racism against Chinese students
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You people do the same to foreigners in your countries, no?
What do you mean 'you people'??? Racist.
While I think it's not fair to say "you people" as a European student I have seen this a lot. Once there is a group from one country, doesn't matter if European or Asian language, it gets hard to integrate and switch back.
You need to integrate in some way shape or form to the culture of where you live if you want to fit in. Doesn't mean giving up your own culture but you need to adapt. I'm also Indian but born and raised here by immigrant parents but I know how to talk, dress, fit in. If you don't, you won't be in the loop
What I inferred from this post:
1. OP is short.
2. OP is socially awkward.
3. OP cannot speak English fluently.
you're likely right, but europe is also just that much more racist than the US
Im an eastern Asian born in continental Europe so my 2 cents after living 2 years in London. The way you phrase everything seems you write it from a position of entitlement and that it is only a problem of Europeans/Brits. I have never received racism here, I have “white” friends and Asian “asian” friends and they don’t struggle to have friends either. No one owes you to be a friend or to date you. You are in their country, so be open to their culture and behaviours and you’ll find plenty of people who will like you. If people like you they’ll hang out with you or are willing to date you. Also dating is so subjective… people have preferences, just like you would. Have dated my fair share of whites and Asians so definitely not impossible.
How did you get white woman?
Sounds like UCL 💀
How did you guess?
Agree with one of the posters above, despite only having a U.S. take. I have rarely seen much effort by foreign students, in general, to assimilate into the school (on this side of the pond, it's going to sporting events, participating in frats and sororities, going to social events, etc.). There's nothing wrong with that, to be clear, but if others are building tighter relationships and bonding, there is an inherent connection being built that some aren't as interested in making, which detrimentally impacts their opportunities and attention from peers, employers, etc.
Also, I'm not sure how UK labor laws work, but given the stringency of U.S. quotas and supply and demand imbalance, most people just assume Chinese students are there to get their education and degree and then will head back to China, rarely to be seen or heard from again. Therefore, the expectation around spending time and building relationships has a high barrier to begin with.
I thought there are no frats for MBA/graduate students anyway??
Try to do business as a Gwailou in China. I went to a major US research school that has a huge native Chinese population.
We’d get a lot of resumes from 4.0 students with impressive Asian internships for IB. Many would show up for an interview and honestly not even speak English…kind of makes you question how they got all As without any working knowledge of the language?
Many of the native Chinese students also self-secluded from the rest of the campus, and it was highly noticeable. All of the US born Chinese were good to great in interviews, but from a recruiting perspective the situation was not ideal. I once interviewed a kid who claimed a Carlyle Asia PE internship, and I was not confident he could put together an entire sentence in English.
Shit on me all you want, but this is the truth.
Everyone now knows the foreign born Indian and Chinese students are, on the whole, major frauds. 10-15 years ago it was still a bit of a secret, but now the secret is out.
They first cheated in HS and on their English language exams to get into a good US university (paying full freight doesn’t hurt either for the college departments). Then in uni their resumes are full of “in name only” or completely made up internships, classes where all the foreign students worked with one another to cheat in various ways, straight up lying about GPA and classes taken, etc. The funny thing is most of this behavior is glossed over and casually accepted as “way of the world” in their home countries, so it’s laughable when these kids complain about getting called out now.
I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and guess you're probably 18, maybe 19 and just arrived/settled in the country.
The truth of the matter is that it's incredibly important to be intentional in things like club or student involvement and creating a social calendar. If you're reserved and shy, not many folks will go up to you to ask questions since you may be unintentionally giving off the presence that you'd prefer to be left alone.
Putting all of the hate, perception of racism and bitterness aside, it's much more valuable to look inward, and take ownership in small things. Like... joining a student club that gets you up and out in a new group. if you have a hobby like hiking, being a foodie, playing an instrument, rock climbing, or pretty much anything (including TV shows or even anime), there are probably a number of clubs you could join. If you're struggling with English, which is very understable, I had 20 years of prep and still suck compared to some of my friends, you may want to try out Toast Masters. If you're having trouble dating, try out Singles Events every week or so and go in with no expectations outside of genuinely wanting to learn about the person right in front of you.
All this to say that there are actionable things you can do that will help you interact with other folks in a better light. And if you try this and the person is outwardly racist (hey, it happens), then ignore them and move on. It doesn't help to dwell on the words of true bigots. An old mentor of mine used to say that you could spend your whole life trying to talk to someone and convince them of your value, but they may just never see it.
And to that last point... they do. But only if you put yourself out there and get rejected a few hundred times - they may be taken, they may not share anything in common, they may prefer someone in Finance with blue eyes and a trust fund, you never know.
British culture includes integration, including doing things that most Brits like to do. Speaking English well also helps.
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