Technical Question - Trade at considerable discounts

Hey guys, I was checking Sugar & Ethanol companies and realized something, those that own the land, instead of renting from someone else, trade at a considerable discount, EV/EBITDA is especially lower. Why is that so?

5 Comments
 

No idea, It must be something industry specific since the intuition suggest that those who rent would have an higher EBITDA and therfore a lower multiple

absolutearbitrageur.blogspot.com
 
Best Response

That's what puzzles me, in theory it should be the opposite. I tried to adjust the multiple by subtracting the land value from the EV and then subtracting the value of the rent from EBITDA, the multiple simple nosedives - think that's because the land is extremely expensive right now in this place and that rents "distributes" the value of the land through years, so I end up taking much more from EV than from EBITDA

Do you have any ideia of how can I adjust the multiple?

 

If these rents are like operating leases you could try to transform them into financial leases (compute PV of future payments, increase assets and increase liabilities) then costs would appear as Depreciation and interest.

absolutearbitrageur.blogspot.com
 

It's kind of different because the price of the rent varies with the price of the sugarcane, basically it means that it functions pretty much as a cooperative. I have no idea of what to do....

 

Sed in nemo iste odit voluptatem itaque. Ea sit qui ab repudiandae iure quidem. Explicabo totam dignissimos ex corporis. Eveniet aut exercitationem deserunt sunt sit odio et. Qui placeat ut placeat ea. Iure qui non vero perferendis.

Quis molestiae deserunt blanditiis. Consequuntur cumque debitis doloribus. Quibusdam quasi vel sit et. Deleniti et facilis quas est neque. Quis officiis et eius autem cum similique est. Cumque et sint facilis est explicabo.

Quia quo nemo molestiae fugiat dolor. Est delectus in voluptatem quia fuga adipisci est. Rerum suscipit sed totam et. Atque qui laborum ex sunt quaerat.

absolutearbitrageur.blogspot.com

Career Advancement Opportunities

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.5%
  • Moelis & Company 01 99.0%
  • JPMorgan 01 98.4%
  • Guggenheim Partners 02 97.9%
  • Morgan Stanley 06 97.4%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Moelis & Company No 99.5%
  • Morgan Stanley 02 99.0%
  • Evercore 01 98.4%
  • Banco Santander 02 97.9%
  • BMO Capital Markets 13 97.4%

Professional Growth Opportunities

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.5%
  • Moelis & Company 01 99.0%
  • Morgan Stanley 05 98.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 01 97.9%
  • JPMorgan No 97.4%

Total Avg Compensation

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Vice President (16) $429
  • Associates (57) $264
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (8) $210
  • 2nd Year Analyst (28) $184
  • Intern/Summer Associate (16) $161
  • 1st Year Analyst (84) $151
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (76) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
kanon's picture
kanon
99.0
4
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
5
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
8
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
98.9
9
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
10
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”