What is the most underrated college (undergrad or masters) to attend to get into IB? The college may be insulted, not well regarded, or may not be known, but is actually a great school for Wall Street or other business placement.
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You might have to Google the meaning of underrated my man.
UMich - relatively easy to get, but good placements.
I go to UNC. Recruiting here is solid. It's not UVA or UMich, but still very solid. I don't really come on this site much so I'm not sure how much attention it gets here.
I don't know much about the difference in recruiting at Ross vs UMich LSA, but from what I've read from here and the people I met during superdays, at UVA almost all of the recruiting is in the comm school. Correct me if I am wrong.
So while UVA gets better recruiting at most banks than UNC's B School, I think UNC A&S may beat UVA A&S. Most banks here don't care much about being in the B School anymore. I wrote a long comment on a post asking about UNC a while ago. I went in detail about all the banks and claimed that you really had to be in the B School, but after looking into it a lot more since then, I don't think being in it matters that much anymore. The resume drops here aren't exclusive to it and they don't separate into piles based off of it.
Edit: If you're going to shit, I'd appreciate a response. Like I said, correct me if I'm wrong.
you're right but be careful, lots of salty uva kids on this site who were too dumb to get into mcintire.
Faber College
Never mind
Hahaha Faber is a fictional college from the movie Animal House
Indiana is also one of the most underrated schools because of its overall rep and the stigma associated with its low rank - obviously its not your top state school (compared to the likes of UT, UMich, UVA, UNC, etc..) but the Kelley School Workshops place very well and if you're a driven and competitive student, you can land IB roles at respectable firms
As a Kelley and IB Workshop grad (who actually transferred there from another school 3rd year), I can reassure you that getting into Kelley shouldn't be overwhelmingly difficult as long as you are a driven person and can do well academically. Getting a top grade in the introductory accounting course should be enough to help you nail the Kelley admission.
It's tough to get into the IB Workshop at IU without political connections. Some of the people in there are sons, daughters, or relatives of prominent business leaders or politicians. Being a female or other underrepresented demographic group could probably increase your odds as well.
But... the IB Workshop doesn't really mean anything other than you get access to a special class that sort of gives you training on the interview process for getting an IB job. It also gets you some visibility among the school staff, which might get you a few leads. However, nothing will preclude you from interviewing at all the banks and doing the necessary networking to get your foot in the door. You can acquire all the knowledge through other means. At the end of the day the job search comes down to who you get to know in the real world, and personality fit.
every kid I ever met who went to Indiana, biz undergrad or not, was a fucking dunce. Literally it is a pool of mediocrity
HBS is actually pretty good. I always struggled with the fact that I didn't get into Wharton but it turned out HBS is solid for recruiting.
I'll never understand what compels people to write such strange comments on the internet anonymously.
SMU. Class of 2021 is sending 56 kids to IB this year. Granted, a good amount will be in Houston, a sizable amount are going to NY.
There is a 0% chance they have that many kids going into front office IB
WSO should have a rule against quoting career office numbers for IB. Always the most bogus shit ever. You could be a teller at Chase and they'd bucket it under IB.
Nothing against Southern Millionaires University which in my experience, does place well in Texas. But (i) as said I don't trust official stats and (ii) I wonder how many of those kids leveraged daddy's rolodex.
Are all the semi/non-targets just posting their own schools lmao
I might get shit on, but hear me out - Dartmouth (all majors), Cornell (non-business majors, their business program isn’t underrated), and Stern (a little underrated because placement is just that solid).
The three above place as well as any other school and have a fat alumni base across all of Wall Street. If you can get into a school like Mich, UVA, etc., I think you’d be better off throwing an early decision app to the above three. It’s much easier to get into Dartmouth, Cornell, or Stern than the upper/middle Ivies, but the recruitment is almost the same.
This doesn’t apply if you’re a rockstar and can get into a Harvard/Wharton level school with ease.
The only reason you would get shit is because you named schools that are not really that underrated.
UT Austin
Finally someone who knows what underrated means.
UT and UIUC are definitely the 2 most underrated schools for finance.
Probably Rutgers, I have a few friends who are seniors there and the school has started pumping a lot of people into wall street as of late. So in terms of underrated that's one of my picks as you normally just hear that Rutgers is shit.
BYU, those damn Mormons are everywhere lol
Even the smaller BYU’s, BYUI Has even sent students to Wall Street
Came here to find my school and realized I’m definitely at a non-target
Northeastern is pretty decent. Maybe not purely for IB although they have sent some kids to top groups like morgan stanley m&a. If you are smart and driven, VC and AM are doable.
Baylor has a solid finance program and business school. Probably the best school in Texas for accounting too. Only a few do investment banking but becuase Baylor makes it possible to double major and still graduate on time you'll learn a lot more than just finance majors. From Baylor, a lot of people get into consulting, corporate banking, big 4 (accounting and finance), and asset managment.
I think you're forgetting someone since the #1 ranked accounting program is in Texas.
Are you serious? McCombs at UT Austin has the number 1 accounting program in the nation. Get your head out of your ass
Penn State
UT Austin and SMU. In Texas at least, I’ve noticed that firms in Houston and NYC tend to target UT kids for their brains and SMU kids for their connections
No NYC firms are actively targeting UT-Austin or SMU.
A few from each Texas school, except Baylor, definitely do end up in NYC IB though.
Edit: of course you’re a senior accounting major with too low of a GPA to do banking.
Not true. Was part of the Houston recruiting team of an EB. Their NYC office actively targets UT Austin, had them listed in an internal recruiting presentation and everything. Was something we in Houston had to manage with them so we didn't cannibalize each other. We were a little bitter NYC didn't leave them to us, but NYC wanted them.
Also, SMU is def underrated. Know a lot of very sharp analysts, associates and senior bankers from there. Barely knew what SMU was before starting banking, but those SMU grads are all over the Houston scene, and not at all in a second-tier way
ohio state sends about 30-35 kids a year to front office roles
Yes. I go there. Not sure what lists you're looking at but the ones on WSO are pretty inaccurate when it comes to OSU at least. Fisher Futures alone sends 25 kids a year and then honors cohort will send another couple kids plus the kids that will go do equity research at boutiques and banking at LMM in Cleveland/Columbus. I'm pasting this from** another** post:
"Not sure what you decided but I go to Ohio State and definitely would choose it given your situation regarding costs. In my fisher futures class alone we got 95% placement (one kid in honors accounting went to Deloitte) including 2 GS offers, 1 CS, 3 citi offers, JPM, UBS is now a target starting next year for Chicago office, multiple Cain bros offers, key is a target, 2 Evercore offers, 1 Lazard offer, 2 RBC offers, 1 Piper offer, William Blair has two reserved spots a year although the ones that got interviews in my class went to other banks this year, 2 Houlihan offers + 1 in RX, a Jefferies offer, and there is a lot more that I'm forgetting and again this just from my class alone.."
also.. US News recently ranked fisher at #10 undergraduate finance program so that's kinda cool https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-finance
To be transparent, it is a fantastic program right now but there is some room for improvement. I imagine it will be much stronger in the next few years or so as OSU as a whole has gotten very selective over a short period of time. The average ACT is a just under a 30 now I think it might be a bit higher for Fisher specifically (not sure) which is kind of insane given it's the 3rd largest school in the country with 62k undergrads.. Alumni network is insane for consulting more so than banking although like I mentioned that is being improved with time.
1) If it is an ivy league it is not underrated 2) UVA, Umich, UT, USC and Indiana are not underrated 3)BYU, SMU, and Rutgers are good underrated calls I have been seeing Do not overlook the valley of the sun......Arizona State baby. Investment Banking program consistently feeding kids to top banks with this years placements including Evr, PJT, WB, JPM, BAML, UBS, DB, Citi, PWP, Laz, MS, and many more. Cant wait for all the ms from you hardos that want to cry because you think that your school (talking to those named in 1 and 2) is underrated. Change my mind.
Forks Up
Shut the fuck up about Rutgers
Rutgers
Cincinnati. Trust me
Trust me, its high. Walk into any Chase in the midwest and ask to open a checking account and you'll be eating your words.
Boston College. Know a couple people over there who’ve placed GS, JPM, etc.
I went to a target, but UConn seems pretty underrated. Good amount of kids on my (FO) floor coming from there.
This thread doesn’t really make sense. What’s the purpose here? Finance is a very, very, very prestige driven industry. Everyone here should be aiming to get into the best college they can.
The end goal isn’t your first job. It doesn’t matter how well these “underrated schools” place. You take your alma mater with you to the grave. Do you think a Harvard or Wharton kid is going to respect what you have to say as a VP when he graduated from Harvard or Wharton and you graduated from Big Dick State University? The Harvard/Wharton guys I know are fucking tools.
I went to a lower Ivy, thus slightly lower SAT and PE recruiting has consistently been “Why not go to Wharton if you knew you wanted to do finance?” and “why should I take you over the guy outside who goes to Harvard and got a perfect SAT score?”. I can only imagine how bad it would be for someone from hypothetical Big Dick State University.
Jesus you are fucking retarded....
Just telling it how it is buddy. I’m sorry you were too retarded to get into a real school. You should look towards another industry.
You really think someone from State U is impressed that you went to Cornell?
If you are someone on this website who is interested in finance and can't attend a "target" for whatever reason. What I would do is look at any of the schools in a power 5 conference and see what sort of IB/finance program that they have. These schools all have a ton of $$ and huge alumni bases and all the opportunities that come with attending a huge research university. Almost all of these schools have copied what Indiana has done to some extent and you can get a pretty good feel for how successful they have been with it based on basic internet searches and talking current students/alumni and the career services office at that school. Most of these places will offer scholarships of some sort to decent students, and direct admit into the business school. Not saying that getting a good job won't be a grind but if you put the work in you set yourself up pretty well at any of these places.