Think Twice before Recruiting for HOUSTON IB!!
Background
I am a semi-target student (Vandy, WashU, UVA) who somehow leveraged my connections to land a spot at a top bank in Houston last cycle. It's a great group, advised on roughly 40% of upstream A&D transactions while also ranking as one of the top midstream groups by sell-side volume
I did my internship and enjoyed my experience. However, I don't think I'll stay in the industry beyond my two-year analyst stint, TBF. Here's my reasoning:
(1) Exits are not good outside of Texas/Energy: Our group has placed analysts into some top-tier energy funds like NGP, Quantum, and EnCap, and even into the energy teams at MFs like Sixth Street and Blackstone. However, exits outside of Texas and energy are extremely difficult. Searchers tend to look down on energy groups, even though we have solid modeling skills and arguably grind more. From what I've observed, second-year analysts who decide to lateral to NY/SF tend to end up at LMM funds or another bank as associates
(2) The industry is cyclical, and so are our working hours: A&D activity is picking up in Q2/Q3 because of higher oil prices, and everyone expects a huge wave of PE-backed companies offloading their assets. I've seen first-year analysts pull two all-nighters doing analysis. Even the technical engineers work extremely hard during these waves. And by working hard, I don’t mean your typical 80-hour week. I’m talking 110+ hours when things get busy
(3) Good deal experience, but not necessarily transferable: Before I joined the group, I bragged about how O&G has its own specialized modeling toolkit and a complex supply chain. At this point, I've realized that many of those skills—type curves, Upstream map work, etc.—aren't particularly transferable outside of O&G. No one really appreciates them if you're recruiting for generalist PE. If you don't like real assets and are only using energy as a way to break into investment banking, your life will probably be miserable cuz all deals are almost the same and super commoditized
(4) Banks are competing for a smaller pie: The number of public companies has fallen from around 60 to 20, while Permian rig counts have declined from 300+ to roughly 240. PE dry powder has fallen from $100+ billion to around $20 billion, and there are fewer private targets left to acquire. I used to be a hater of the energy transition and thought natural gas would take significant market share and go to $5/MMBtu, but that never happened. Some EBs, like EVR and MOE, are now competing for ~$100 million mineral deals. You don't really see that happening in healthcare, tech, or industrial
(5) It's very hard for non-Texans to fit in: I love my intern class and the analysts I've worked with, but they speak an entirely different language. Many of them went to private schools like Kinkaid and already have deeply established networks. Their conversations are often about their high school's football team or some great Houston/Dallas restaurant I've never heard of
(6) Weather and traffic: Horrible. Anyone who disagrees has been drinking the Houston Kool-Aid
The only positives are that my firm’s culture has improved significantly and deal flow remains strong
Agree with what you said, but why did you recruit for Houston in the first place if you wanted to recruit on-cycle for NYC/SF buy-side?
Also, everyone knows which bank you’re talking about when you say 40% of A&D. Congrats on winning the sand volleyball tournament
Houston sucks for all of those reasons above. Anyone with a pre frontal cortex usually sees it and gets out asap when they get enough experience. The only people who stay are actually from Houston or they got stuck there with a wife and kids somehow. My three years in Houston genuinely felt like I was serving a prison sentence.
No wonder you are now in Corporate Banking. Hope Mamdani can triple your tax rate
I was always in CB. I don’t live in NYC either.
The upsides are way more than those minor points you mentioned:
One is the huge talent gap. With all the brainwashing education from liberals, young people think O&G is evil and believe that inefficient clean energy and its evil sister, battery storage, will displace O&G. Senior people need to beg me to stay in banking and pay me a fat check
Two is more normal and conservative people who embrace Republicans. No brain-rot DEI Beckies. The only outlier is Evercore, which hires a bunch of Indian, Chinese, and Canadian
Third is that I am doing this for money: low taxes and a low cost of living.
Make Oil & Gas Great Again!!!
This really made me rethink tmt M&A for a minute until I remembered how pigeonholed you become
Who cares, Intern? Oil and Gas is the backbone of our economy and is what makes our country great, not some useless B2B SaaS
Non-Texan in Houston IB weighing in here - completely disagree. This year our first years placed at elite buyside firms not just in Houston (Apollo, Blackstone, etc) so very much depends on how hard you recruit and network. People from cities like New York and LA usually don't thrive here since we actually talk to each other and want to be sociable outside the office. We also enjoy the idea of owning a car, so generally the only transplants I've seen miserable in Houston are in love with riding rat infested subways.
Even if you are defending Houston, I still think you should go back to where you came from. Proud Texan here
What a useless life for those putting 100 hour weeks into a bank in houston. Obviously anything not NYC is shit, doesnt take a moron to understamd that either
Tulaner, take your meds and TDS. Every single comment you’ve left so far is just you bad-mouthing a place or a bank
Congrats on getting taxed 50%+ and bowing down to Mamdani
Congrats on JEF bro, hope that volleyball game was fun
Classic Houston thread comments. People will dunk on each other like they’re in The Hunger Games. Love this.
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