In their process and was wondering about exits, comp, internal mobility prospects. Eventually want to be in an investing seat, but I don't know how exits look across ecm/dcm/levfin. Would love any insight.
If you're considering Morgan Stanley's Global Capital Markets (GCM) and are concerned about potential pigeonholing, here's what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:
Exit Opportunities in ECM/DCM:
ECM (Equity Capital Markets) and DCM (Debt Capital Markets) are not typically strong feeders into investing roles like Private Equity (PE) or Hedge Funds (HF). For example, it's noted that "you will not get into PE or HF from DCM, 99% of the cases."
ECM roles provide exposure to markets and equities but lack the modeling-heavy experience that PE firms value. As one WSO user mentioned, "In ECM, you will not be doing any modeling... but you will be heavily exposed to markets."
DCM, while more "recession-proof" than ECM, also doesn't build the skill set for PE/HF. However, DCM bankers often develop strong relationships early in their careers, which can lead to unique exits later, such as Treasurer roles or senior positions in corporate finance.
LevFin as a Better Option:
If your goal is an investing seat, LevFin (Leveraged Finance) is generally considered a better path. It involves more modeling and deal structuring, which aligns more closely with the skills PE firms look for. As noted, "the only capital markets group that will have legitimate exits would be LevFin."
Long-Term Career in GCM:
If you're open to staying in banking, GCM can offer a solid career path with better work-life balance compared to M&A. ECM, for instance, is described as having "much better work-life balance and same pay" compared to other banking roles. DCM also offers stability, especially during economic downturns.
Pigeonholing Concerns:
While GCM roles may not directly lead to investing seats, they can still provide valuable experience and relationships. However, if you're set on PE or HF, you might want to consider roles in M&A, LevFin, or other groups that emphasize financial modeling and deal execution.
In summary, if your ultimate goal is an investing seat, you might find GCM limiting in terms of exit opportunities. LevFin or M&A would be more aligned with your aspirations. However, if you're open to exploring other paths or staying in banking, GCM at a top firm like Morgan Stanley can still be a rewarding choice.
GCM has many groups and exits are very group specific. ECM/DCM gets exits to IR roles, but sometimes you might get a capmarkets role at an alternative investment firm (like ECM at Blue Owl or Apollo). LevFin exits to credit roles, but MS LevFin doesn't model so its a solo effort. FICM typically are career bankers. Project Finance exits very well to infra PE, on par with GPUG in IBD
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If you're considering Morgan Stanley's Global Capital Markets (GCM) and are concerned about potential pigeonholing, here's what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:
Exit Opportunities in ECM/DCM:
LevFin as a Better Option:
Long-Term Career in GCM:
Pigeonholing Concerns:
In summary, if your ultimate goal is an investing seat, you might find GCM limiting in terms of exit opportunities. LevFin or M&A would be more aligned with your aspirations. However, if you're open to exploring other paths or staying in banking, GCM at a top firm like Morgan Stanley can still be a rewarding choice.
Sources: ECM Exit Opportunities, ECM/DCM for Career Banking, Going from IB to ECM or DCM? Anyone made this move?, ECM/DCM for Career Banking
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GCM has many groups and exits are very group specific. ECM/DCM gets exits to IR roles, but sometimes you might get a capmarkets role at an alternative investment firm (like ECM at Blue Owl or Apollo). LevFin exits to credit roles, but MS LevFin doesn't model so its a solo effort. FICM typically are career bankers. Project Finance exits very well to infra PE, on par with GPUG in IBD
Any chance at traditional PE/PC/HF out of GCM?
Typically no. unless Infra PC or PE at a MF
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