West Coast Tech IB Exits?
Looking to lateral from a NY BB to Tech IB in the West Coast - curious to hear how would you rank the different firms in terms of exits? I don't have a strong preference as to PE vs Growth Equity vs VC, but it would be great to get some insights
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of West Coast Tech IB firms and their exit opportunities:
Top Firms for Exits
Qatalyst Partners (Q)
Goldman Sachs SF TMT (GS SF)
Morgan Stanley Menlo Park (MS MP)
Second Tier
Credit Suisse SF (CS SF)
Moelis LA
Morgan Stanley LA (MS LA)
Additional Insights
If you're looking to lateral, targeting Qatalyst, GS SF, or MS MP would likely maximize your exit options across PE, Growth Equity, and VC.
Sources: West Coast IB Rankings, SF Tech Banking Rankings, SF Tech Banking Rankings
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GS / MS kids exit anywhere they want (NY or West Coast MF PE, top VC / GE, startups etc), really just a matter of choice and a lot are targeting tech / startups vs buyside roles.
EVR / JPM / MOE / LAZ have strong exits albeit a tad below the above two.
BoFA / Citi / Barc can be a bit mid, depending on the candidate etc.
(I don't include Q here, because they are less interested in exits. But obviously they can also exit anywhere, similar to GS or MS if I had to guess)
Thoughts on PJT? Ik they're small/new, so less of a sample size
Not sure to be fair. Probably not as good as the top dogs but the PJT brand can you give you a push
What are the differences in exits between tiers?
Any info on JPM SF & MS SF (FSG/HC/IND)?
Can talk to MS SF. If you’re talking exits, it’s just as good as NY my class went to various MFs across verticals. Culturally I enjoyed it, good people and more casual culture than NY. You’re given more responsibility on deal teams and have better senior exposure by the nature of having fewer people. I miss it in some ways tbh.
Really appreciate the info- great to hear
EVR MP has among the best exits in the West Coast. Would throw MOE LA there too
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Congrats on EVR MP
When it comes to exits it’s binary not scalar. If the bank is good enough you will get similar looks. Comes down to how prepped the individual is
I am at an EB going to a MF. You should rethink what matters for buyside exits. It’s not just about legacy / pedigree.
After GS/MS/JPM placed restrictions on recruiting last year, the EBs are positioned so much better for exits. You can recruit better when you don’t have institutional hurdles obstructing you. Some of the boutiques which historically were considered tier 1b/tier 2 groups would give you tier 1a like exits due to decreased competition from the bulge brackets during on cycle.
This year’s oncycle turn out from GS/MS/JPM was very low and West Coast on cycle interviews were filled with EB kids just due to lack of hostility towards recruiting. It becomes very hard to sign that MF offer from a bulge bracket even if your group has had historical placement there when you are scared of leaving the office to interview or approaching seniors for references. Not saying it’s impossible, but recruiting from most bulge brackets has become more difficult and isn’t what it used to be. I think that this year quite narrowed the gap between the top bulges and the boutiques for exits. So you should not just go by historical legacy.
Several kids from the West Coast EB classes are going to MFs this cycle and an exceptionally good percentage of those from west coast EBs who recruited on cycle/off cycle this year have placed at UMM/MFs. If you don’t believe me, go ask around and find out which firms the current analyst 1s at EVR, LAZ, MOE are going.
I’d argue that even 2-3 years back it didn’t make any practical difference whether you were in GS SF / MS Menlo / EVR Menlo / LAZ SF in terms of where you can exit (though WSO might disagree) despite some of these having better branding, and that gap has just minimized further.
All things considered, this just makes it more important for you to focus on the culture and the kind of work you’ll be doing at the bank, since you have a good chance of exiting to a solid west coast UMM/MF from most good west coast BB/EBs (assuming you are able to actually recruit)
Solid point, but even in this current on-cycle top BB kids (MS Menlo / GS SF TMT) placed well in MF PE (NYC or West Coast) and top VC (eg NEA, GCapital (Google Ventures)).
Overall, though, your average exit from top BBs to some of the EBs (EVR, MOE, LAZ) won't be that different. All of these place top-notch. However, top BB exits I feel have more upside (better MF PE or top VC firms), which some EB kids can't get to
If you're early on in banking, stay in NY. Nothing sucks more than leaving the office late and there's literally nothing open to even pick up some toothpaste while paying comparable rent. It is a very inconvenient city for people that have to work in the office late. Your friends (and romantic interests) that you meet will all work in Tech making comparable salaries and perceive you as basically an overlyglorified accountant that has an unhealthy relationship with their job and office attendance. People will assume you work late and have to turn comments because it is something in your direct control (meaning it sounds like you suck at your job). SF is only cool if you're really into outdoor activities during protected weekends or lean progressive politically.
Yeah but if you want to do actual tech banking then you have to be in the West Coast/SF. Sorry, NYC doesn't have any real tech IB ecosystem (let's be real, the cool & interesting tech stuff is being done out of West Coast offices for the most part). Plus, if you want to get immersed in the tech space post-IB (PE, GE, VC, tech startups) then you better be in the West Coast/SF.
You can always experience NYC later on in your career if you really feel like it. Honestly, given the hours folks put in banking, it's not like you are going to enjoy one city or the other more...
This. When you pull ~90 hours a week, you won't have the time or energy to "enjoy" NYC. You might have a couple of hours on weekends, but by then you'll be so tired that you'll probably prefer to just chill or relax vs crushing the city.
One thing folks miss is that we're in the hottest tech streak nowadays since probably the advent of the internet ~30 years ago. If you have the chance to land a top tech IB seat in the Bay Area or SF, then go for it full stop (unless ofc you're really not into tech). You don't have to settle there but doing 2-3 years there in IB/PE/GE etc can pay dividends later on in your career...
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