Would you take Liontree over mid-low tier BBs?
Would you take Liontree over mid-low tier BBs? Curious to hear people's thoughts and really appreciate any comparison of career trajectory and exits.
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Would not take over CS but would over UBS, DB.
How come? Also, is this any old group at CS or assuming you can land a top one?
Assuming good group at CS like sponsors, tmt, industrials, maybe levfin.
I was also assuming the following
Upper BB: GS, MS, JPM
Upper-Mid: Baml, Barclays, Citi
Lower-Mid: CS, UBS, DB
Would take, especially if interested in TMT. More exposure to seniors, firm is growing quickly, likely to have good TMT focused exit opps.
I would take it over Barclays but not CS
Barclays > CS in TMT over the last 2 years. CS sponsors > any group at Barclays.
I’d second this. I networked with a CS TMT banker and the dude hated his life - complained about all of the newspaper industry deals he works on
Strange decision, Barclays is generally better than CS across industries but especially in TMT.
If OP wanted TMT for sure then I would agree with you. Otherwise I think on average the groups at CS are better, at least exit wise
My school has great connections at BBs so if I felt confident I could get into a good group, id pick the BB.
Really depends on boutique vs BB preference. There's an argument for it to go either way. It's silly to for example say that BAML is more prestigious than Liontree but Citi doesn't make the cut.
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BAML = Barclays > LionTree > Credit Suisse = Citi > UBS > DB in TMT, just imo
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That's fair, I would maybe bump Citi over CS and Barclays over BAML for media and telecom. I work mostly in tech.
I would even take it over GS and MS, if you’re interested in getting strong experience...all about if you want boutique or brand name of BB
OK Aryeh Bourkoff
Personally no. Exit ops aren't any better, and it's really just about the boutique/BB experience. Lion Tree is an extremely small shop even for a boutique, and I rather work at a BB where there's more comradery among juniors. Also if you plan on leaving finance, BB names carry much more weight than LT, who no one outside of finance will ever hear of.
I imagine there are other things to consider with this - you might get impressive deal experience on a lean team, but how is their training program? Will you have to bind your own pitchbooks? What about other resources, like CapIQ or Bloomberg?
Just something to consider. I don't have an offer yet so I'd even accept something from my buddy Tobin here, but if you have the BB/tiny up & coming EB choice, I'd personally pick BB for small inconveniences like the ones I mentioned.
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