rude Human Resources
Are many people in HR bitter and rude towards job applicants because they know that the jobs they are going for pay much more than them?
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Odds are you caught them on a bad day (not that it should make a difference). I have had experiences where one day HR is incredibly rude, and the next day the same person is incredibly nice. Although I did have a very negative experience with HR at a bank that shall not be named.
No, it's usually because they get a barrage of stupid questions from people unqualified for the roles they're trying to fill.
No, people who are interested in HR aren't usually interested in IB or the kind of hours the job entails....
What a dumb initial post. How ignorant.
RUDE HR (Originally Posted: 05/27/2010)
I've noticed something during the last year in talking to a dozen guys I know who have been interviewing for jobs in IB following layoffs during the year. They say they have had about 20 first or second round interviews each in which HR or the group NEVER got back to them. That's about 240 instances of no response following interview. Is this the way IB HR has always been or are these people rude and overworked or what?
Anybody have similar experiences?
this only happened to me with a firm that rhymes with smorgan smanley. Not only did they NEVER follow up with me (after superday), not one of the four analysts + HR contact replied to me after I emailed them MULTIPLE TIMES (weeks later as I was waiting for an answer). Never got a response to this day. And I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this, but the one place where I absolutely refuse to work is 'smorgan smanley'. Those people have some complex issues.
Is this a boutique firm? Never heard of it. Kind of weird that they named their firm so close to Morgan Stanley.
They're definitely not the only one. From HR's perspective though, why would they bother to respond to people they've dinged? Sure, it'd be nice and humane of them, but practically it's nothing but a waste of time.
thats just bs. How much time do you waste by sending at least an automated e-mail.
Too much time if you are of 0 future value to them. That's what some people think anyway.
Not much if you have to send 1. Quite a bit if you have to send 100.
I've had the same experience from different firms, but for S&T. In my experience, buy-side tends to be more courteous in their communication. Don't take it personally. You're limiting your option if write off somebody based on this alone.
Part of your job is to have thick skin and good communication skill. If you can't take crap from HR, you will go crazy on the job with clients.
Side story. I had a great conversation and left a good impression with a MD who runs a trading desk for a foreign bank. Emailed the guy when I got home. No reply, so I moved on to something else. Found out later from my friend that apparently the guy doesn't really read his emails. Had I followed up better, I might have gotten in.
Lesson learned? Emailing alone is not following up. Call them up. Hustle their underlings. Try to be creative.
There are lots of companies (not only banks) who just don't care, I know a few that simply decided they wouldn't recrute anyone (not because they didn't like the interviewees but because they just didn't need anyone else) but didn't bother to tell.
Fixed.
your retarded
...(sarcasm btw)
I know a guy who had a first round interview at a BB. When he heard he didn't get a second round, he called asking for feedback. That call led to a second round...which led to an offer.
Don't give up hope.
Unless you are a strong candidate, they usually wait till the last possible moment to tell you "No" in case some applicants decide to reject their offer. So its not uncommon for them to forget about you - however, I would say, most of the interviews I have had, I usually did hear back - espeically following a superday
HR is like that. You must realize they don't know or care about you. Once you are not chosen they move on. I wouldn't take it personally.
People, this is a double-edged sword. By never actually emailing or calling you that you've been dinged after a first round, this allows you to say that you're still interviewing with Smorgan Smanley when Goldmastone asks you said question in an interview.
Look at the upside.
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