1 in every 500 Americans have died to COVID

What a bleak tragedy.  We need to do anything possible to stop this.  Thank you Biden for the mandates!  Although frankly he should have done this much much sooner.

(watch a bunch of psychos say “tHEY wERE aLL gONNA dIE sOON aNYWAYS”)

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CA/NY have all the shit you probably want in place and they're number 1 and 3 in deaths, respectively. Care to explain? Are you not seeing the pattern that there isn't a real reasonable way of controlling this? And no, putting unvaccinated people in a death camp is not reasonable, torpedoing the economy with lockdowns isn't reasonable.

 

New York has +46 deaths and Florida has +479 according to Google.  Now that there's a vaccine, it's pretty clear which areas are getting demolished (hint: the ones that don't do anything)

 

I did not think I was scared of COVID until it got close to home.  My kid was hanging with someone who tested positive.  I was nervous about going near him.  Fortunately, his test was negative.  Life can go on again

 
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More people have died of lockdown-related overdoses and suicides than from the virus. 2020 was the bloodiest year on record for violent crime. We have witnessed the largest economic restructuring and transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy since the Great Depression. We are surrendering liberties to unaccountable corporate-state partnerships, and our institutions are decayed out and rotten. Our empire recedes abroad and racial tensions flare up at home.

But hey, at least we stopped Donald Trump and saved our Democracy™

 
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More people have died of lockdown-related overdoses and suicides than from the virus. 2020 was the bloodiest year on record for violent crime. We have witnessed the largest economic restructuring and transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy since the Great Depression. We are surrendering liberties to unaccountable corporate-state partnerships, and our institutions are decayed out and rotten. Our empire recedes abroad and racial tensions flare up at home.

But hey, at least we stopped Donald Trump and saved our Democracy™

What liberties have we surrendered?

 

Pretty much all of them we had left.  People who are demanding vaccines be forced on the population are the biggest bunch of idiot pussies I have ever seen.  They are legit complaining that they are scared of unvaccinated people coming into work..... Are you fucking serious?  That argument legit is them admitting the vaccine doesn't work.

 

Did you know globally it is about 1 in every 140 or so.  (don't crucify me on the exact number, it has been years since I read that tidbit of information)

 

Some really rough back-of-the-envelope math:

Say the average COVID victim would have lived an additional 10 years. Say that the victim's quality of life would have dipped a little due to age and infirmity. So we'll assign 0.9 QALYs to the first 9 years and 0.5 to the final year. So COVID cost each victim 8.6 QALYs.

8.6 QALYs times 52 is 447 quality-adjusted life weeks. And 447 times 7 is 3,130 quality-adjusted life days.

Divide 3,130 by the 499 COVID survivors, and you find that the COVID restrictions would only need to have cost each survivor 6.25 quality-adjusted life days in order to equal the cost of COVID on the people who died from it.

One way to think about that would be: would it be worth it to the other 499 Americans to give up one single week out of the primes of their lives in exchange for zero COVID restrictions over the past 18 months? It seems to me that the answer is yes.

Obviously it's impossible to quantify these things exactly, but it's amazing how rarely anyone even tries to do that.

 

There's most likely a Covid subreddit where you can make 2-3 daily Covid posts if you'd like to take these there. 

 

Gotta love the "they're Trumpers so they're automatically wrong!" vibes. Maybe actually address the counterarguments presented in this thread (if you are able to)?

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What’s so controversial? This thing is deadly to old people and people with weak immune systems. It’s long term health effects are unknown.

It should be an easy bi-partisan issue, but for some bizarre reason trump chose to make it one of his soap box fights and told his supporters it was fake and no big deal first. Interestingly, he got the vaccine very quickly lol.

It is that big an ask to wear a mask, social distance and not have big parties for a couple of years to keep strangers safe? Not really, but the ultra right segment is making a huge deal of wearing masks and getting a vaccine.

Of course they don’t care, because it’s hard to care about total strangers.

 

What really gets me is that around 650k people die of heart disease every year in the US, most of which can be prevented through a proper diet alone, all of which is a massive burden on our health system, but for some reason this is not considered an emergency health crisis. Covid comes along killing ~670k people in 18 months (many individuals having pre-existing conditions such as heart disease) and people lose their minds. There has been no logic to the action we have taken as a society in response to Covid. Include annual deaths from other preventable diseases like Type 2 diabetes and Covid looks like an even bigger joke in comparison.

 

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