Hi monkeys,
Looking to better understand the value / effectiveness of adding some vitamines to my daily routine.
Is there any research proving taking certain vitamins is helpful? What is it helpful for? Should I look at multivitamin products or are there more specific nuances I don't understand as of right now?
These are just some general questions, would appreciate any insights.
For context: AN1, inside all day, relatively balanced diet, not enough exercise
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Underrated is just having a healthy diet, sleep, alcohol, and caffeine consumption.
Separately, everyone has their own style, but I always found the people who worked out everyday or went for the morning workouts to be really short sighted. The analyst role has you so sleep deprived that you aren’t going to get strength gains and lack of sleep will cause you to gain weight due to stress or extra snacking from stress. Further, it probably makes you worse at your job because you show up sleep deprived or are non-responsive during your workout.
The way to really survive and thrive is weekend workouts, healthy diet, low alcohol consumption, and maximizing sleep wherever you can. You need to recognize the analyst pace is by design unsustainable and it will be less intense from an hours standpoint at the associate level or when you leave the firm. The analyst years are not the time to get in great shape, be a partier, or have life balance, it’s a war of attrition and each month you make it through is a month closer to the finish line.
That said, if you workout Friday, Saturday, Sunday, that should be enough to get in really good shape if you program and eat correctly.
I struggle to buy into the idea that the average person’s diet provides sufficient nutrients considering the market capitalization of McDonalds etc etc. I also have a hard time buying into the idea that eating a higher amount of fruits / vegetables than the average person doesn’t have compounding impacts on your health. Can you share some of these studies? I haven’t come across anything with this perspective before and I’m curious
Here’s my take, not trying to come across like an ass, just this is my understanding that I feel very confident is right:
To the person talking about McDonalds etc, it’s overinflating the importance of “daily values” of micronutrients and ignoring how much stuff is added to even like bread to make it enriched today. When people are talking about “healthy foods” and in regards to this conversation the concern is generally not calories, protein, or fats, it’s micro nutrients. Which again matters if you get none of them because you will get like scurvy, but a developed country diet has you eating enough variance and protein and calories that you just aren’t at the threshold of malnutrition or issues with too few micronutrients. Put another way, you accidentally get a lot of micro nutrients, and let’s say you are low in like vitamin A and get 70% over the recommended 100% daily value consistently, does it really matter much? Evidence seems sketchy for a lot of micronutrients. Could you be better sure, but there just isn’t conclusive evidence that the average person benefits from adding a supplement that’s giving them additional micronutrients. Frankly, a better use of time is prob eating less or exercising for almost everyone in the population than trying to spend on a multivitamin. The exception being like those with abnormal conditions, pregnant people, or those that are like vegan who literally intentionally avoiding a variety of commonly consumed foods.
Personally, I eat really healthy and it makes me feel better, but that’s not the point or the question posed.
Have had numerous doctors echo what I said above and have done independent research, not going to dig around and do the searching for you this time around, but this is chat gpts response to “are multivitamins worth it, please provide studies”
Multivitamins are one of the most commonly used supplements. The value and benefit of taking them depend on an individual’s diet, health needs, and specific vitamin deficiencies.
For the general population, a balanced diet typically provides all the necessary nutrients. The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) in a 2021 statement noted that there is insufficient evidence to recommend for or against the use of multivitamins to prevent cardiovascular disease or cancer in otherwise healthy adults without known nutritional deficiencies.
Studies such as the Physicians' Health Study II did not find significant evidence that multivitamins reduce the risk of cancer or heart disease in a population of male physicians over a decade of follow-up. Another study, the Iowa Women's Health Study, suggested that some vitamins, when taken in excess, could actually increase mortality rates.
However, for specific populations, such as pregnant women, the elderly, or those with dietary restrictions (like vegans), multivitamins may be beneficial. For example, prenatal vitamins are routinely recommended for pregnant women to ensure adequate folate intake, which is crucial for fetal development.
Here are some considerations from studies and reviews:
- A broad review of evidence by Fortmann et al., published in the 'Annals of Internal Medicine' in 2013, concluded that multivitamins do not prevent cardiovascular disease, cancer, or mortality in healthy individuals.
- The Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS), sponsored by the National Eye Institute, found that a specific combination of vitamins and minerals can slow the progression of age-related macular degeneration, a major cause of vision loss among older adults.
In conclusion, multivitamins may be "worth it" for individuals with specific vitamin deficiencies, dietary restrictions, or increased nutrient needs. For the general population eating a varied diet, the routine use of multivitamins does not seem to offer benefit and may, in some cases, be detrimental. As with any supplement, it is best to consult with a healthcare provider to discuss personal health needs.
Agreed with the above. I would look to supplement with Vitamin D if you never get sun or are in the North during the winter. Another way to get a quick workout in while being close to the computer is buying a few DBs and resistance bands for your apartment.
A well balanced diet covers most micronutrient bases, but 99.99% of people don’t have one. I absolutely argue to supplement with high quality vitamins and supplements.
You should get blood work done if you want to really dial it in. Now, all this “fine tuning” means nothing if your body (the car) is a shitbox starting out
Vitamin D 100%. Fish oil daily. Iron if you’re low.
This is what works for me out bodies are different but these have consistently worked for me. Vitamin k2 Vitamin d3 Magnesium Glycinate Cod liver Olive oil pills Probiotic pills I also have a low sucrose intake which increased my insulin sensitivity, allowing me to burn body fat in my sleep. Making drop from 20 percent body fat to 16. 6 body fat with little exercise. I hope this helps others.
I’m still in college but I got AG1 a few weeks ago and I have noticed a difference. Used to be tired all the time (especially afternoons) but now I feel good. Was probably just deficient in something
no. I know an MD famous for his stock calls and he said on zoom he takes 2x whatever the doctor suggest. I've been taking supplements since 20 and I'm still fat disgusting and aged as shit
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