Best Bang for the Buck. Cornell ILR, BC Honors, Villanova or ND?
Senior in HS recently denied at Wharton, Harvard and Dartmouth. Accepted at Cornell ILR, BC Honors, Villanova and ND. Thinking I'm interested in Finance/IB or consulting, but who knows at this point...things could certainly change once I get to college. As a NYS resident, Cornell is ~ $45k a year whereas the rest are ~ $60k. Interested in hearing from anyone who is a graduate of these schools and, more imprortantly, practitioners and recruiters in finance/IB and/or consulting as to the relative merits of these institutions relative to securing internships during school and employment upon graduation. A quarter of a million dollars is a lot of money and my concern is that a finance/business degree other than from a top 5 school may not be a wise investment.
Cornell
I'm gonna have to say Cornell too.
Can you transfer to CALS / Dyson once at Cornell? Would that change the cost at all?
In my opinion, as someone that has done analyst recruiting pretty extensively I would say if you can get into Dyson then Cornell is the best option (even non-Dyson is still great) as Cornell had a pretty decent network on Wall St and is a target for many banks. BC and Villanova are good schools but you will have a harder time getting your foot in the door as these are at best semi-targets. ND has both its + / - in terms of recruiting...generally it places pretty well for Chicago offices due to the very strong alum network. That said, outside of Chitown, ND is a school that people either love or hate. You can find alums outside of Chicago and network through them but I you will also run into ND-haters all over the place. Personally I fall into the latter camp - my experience with ND grads is that they are usually very arrogant and think they are hot shit and that their school is better than any target school...which tends to be pretty off putting and for the most part I've found that these guys don't have the stuff to back up their arrogance. Not to say that I hate ND, I have great friends that went there, but I've just had a bad experience recruiting ND grads.
the rest are not even comparable to cornell
ND since Cornell not AEM
i went to one of the aforementioned schools, all good finance programs, you should ask yourself:
where do you want to be geographically? Do you want to be in upstate NY? Do you want to go to Boston? Do you want to be in South Bend?
Also, what do you want in terms of a social scene, do you want a college sports experience, etc.?
On price and reputation, Cornell wins there. On the other hand, ND has a great business program along with the sports and party scene. BC also has a great business school, located in argualy the best college town, has the sports, and most honors kids get a preference in recruiting.
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transferring into AEM isn't too hard as long as you keep your gpa up.
ND is cheaper and has an excellent business program. If you are not 100% sure you want to work in New York, or if you are Christian- especially Catholic, give ND some serious thought.
Cornell is also a good choice. But the only reason it's $10K/year more valuable than ND is that New York bankers are biased towards it. Meanwhile, Chicago's feelings about ND and Cornell are the reverse of New York's.
The one other good thing about ND is that, by nature of its gung-ho alumni network and Catholic roots, it is a top choice school for many of the students admitted. It's not exactly MIT or even Chicago, but you'll find a surprising number of students there who would have made competitive candidates at Harvard but never bothered to apply. They are devout Catholics or gung-ho football fans, and they bleed blue and gold.
This is a high quality problem to have. Unless your family lives around Boston, Ithaca, or Philly, though, I am going to start steering you towards Notre Dame. It sucks that I have to turn you into one of the world's most obnoxious football fans, and it sucks that as soon as one NDer makes it into a Chicago prop shop they seem to multiply like rabbits, but if cost is any sort of an issue, if you are Christian, if you're only 80% sure you want to work in New York, or if you want to do finance, I can promise you that you won't completely rue the day you turned down Cornell for ND.
i think you should go to wharton.
BC and ND appear to have more of the "College Experience" than Cornell, including big time athleteics. Is Cornell significantly better than BC Honors and ND in terms of IB internships and IB job placement upon graduation because the pragmatic side of me is leaning towards Cornell?
Lastly, is Cornell ILR a detriment to IB job placement verses AEM (Dyson)? I like the flexibility that the ILR course curiculum provides in that I can take a lot of electives in ALS (Dyson) the Hotel School and CAS (Economics Classes). If there is a stigma attached to a degree that reads "Industrial Labor and Relations", however, I'd investigaet transferring to Dyson.
Thanks for the help. I'll make a decision next week.
Take Nova/BC out of your consideration. Agree with the above poster in that these schools are semi-targets at best. Good luck.
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