Yes exactly. The fact that dems are just dismissing it without even thinking about it is terrible. Not even trying to verify. Yet they claimed Russia interfered last election. Terrible.
The Russian interference was found to be true; I don't know why people believe it was a fraud just because Trump says it was. Dozens of people associated with Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign have served prison time (https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/). The part that was not verified was whether or not Trump himself and other prominent members of his campaign knew about it and actively colluded with Russian officials. I'm not trying to be abrasive, but this is an easily disproven talking point that I hear way too much.
I’m a fun guy. Obviously I love the game of basketball. I mean there’s more questions you have to ask me in order for me to tell you about myself. I'm not just gonna give you a whole spill... I mean, I don't even know where you're sitting at
In all honesty, this election will, undoubtedly, end up going to Biden. He's already leading in both Pennsylvania and Georgia and is bound to win Nevada, so congrats to him I guess.
Definitely should be looked into, but I’m not sure why this is being treated as breaking news. Like it or not, dead people vote every year. Just google “dead people voting 20XX election” and you’ll see what I mean. Happened in 2012, 2016, 2018 and of course 2020. There were almost assuredly dead people that voted for Trump as well, but no one is looking because it is not currently advantageous to do so.
+1 Exactly, this isn't a smoking gun yet. Unfortunately, every election has a few of these. That's why there are long running jokes such as "I voted Republican all my life but when I died, I voted Democrat".
Now, if there is an unusually high number of these cases, then I would be concerned.
Mitch McConnell is the most effective politician of our era imo. Man is amazing at getting shit done for his party and equally amazing at completely throttling the Dems' actions through creative and resourceful obstruction. Love him or hate him, it's tough to argue with the results. He does look like a turtle though
Y'all are kidding with this right? This happened last election and could very well be a clerical error/missed input.
From 538's feed:
Also, dead voters are definitely a thing that has come up in claims like this before. Kobach, for example, staged a whole press conference around the claim of dead voters in Kansas in 2010. He cited the case of Albert K. Brewer, a dead man who was still voting, as an example. But the Topeka Capital-Journal found that Brewer was alive. Kobach’s staff had confused him with his father, also named Albert Brewer but with a different middle initial. The elder Brewer had indeed died, in 1996, on his son’s birthday.
Think both sides are smelling their own farts a little too hard.
Y'all are kidding with this right? This happened last election and could very well be a clerical error/missed input.
From 538's feed:
Also, dead voters are definitely a thing that has come up in claims like this before. Kobach, for example, staged a whole press conference around the claim of dead voters in Kansas in 2010. He cited the case of Albert K. Brewer, a dead man who was still voting, as an example. But the Topeka Capital-Journal found that Brewer was alive. Kobach's staff had confused him with his father, also named Albert Brewer but with a different middle initial. The elder Brewer had indeed died, in 1996, on his son's birthday.
Think both sides are smelling their own farts a little too hard.
Nobody farts more from his mouth than Nate Silver when it comes to elections
Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.
I just love that Tucker Carlson and Seam Hannity ran their mouth on PA for 2 hours tonight while GA count kept going down next to their head. Can’t claim anything there given it’s a Republican run state. Same exact trends
Still overseen by Governor and Secretary of State. Weird they aren’t intervening if there is fraud or some other violation going on if the gap shrinking so fast?
The only cheating I've seen is the Trump campaign trying to get his Pennsylvania supporters to turn in their mail in ballots past the deadline, which is illegal.
Trump even "joked" about his supporters voting twice in NC if I recall correctly.
To preface, I am fine with him going to court all he wants but this whole thing was a setup.
1.) Claim the only way you can lose is fraud months before the election. Followers believe him.
2.) Claim mail ballots are going to be fraudulent multiple times (except in Florida). Repeat so followers believe. Repetition is key.
3.) Republican state legislators prevent tossup states from counting and processing mail in ballots before election day.
4.) Convince party to vote in person complete.
5.) Almost all your votes(GOP) are in on election day and Americans expect to find the results quickly. GOP supporters see a map of red and think Trump won.
6.) Slowly count millions of mail in ballots and give Trump time to claim fraud and "Stop the Count" (GA, PA, MI, WI) in some states and "Keep Counting in Others" (AZ/NV).
He makes America look pathetic when he encourages others to do what he claims is done to him. I find the whole thing pathetic. It undermines democracy and polarizes the country to feed his ego.
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Yes exactly. The fact that dems are just dismissing it without even thinking about it is terrible. Not even trying to verify. Yet they claimed Russia interfered last election. Terrible.
So true
The Russian interference was found to be true; I don't know why people believe it was a fraud just because Trump says it was. Dozens of people associated with Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign have served prison time (https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/). The part that was not verified was whether or not Trump himself and other prominent members of his campaign knew about it and actively colluded with Russian officials. I'm not trying to be abrasive, but this is an easily disproven talking point that I hear way too much.
https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-finding…
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
More people need to be talking about this
In all honesty, this election will, undoubtedly, end up going to Biden. He's already leading in both Pennsylvania and Georgia and is bound to win Nevada, so congrats to him I guess.
This is what covid was all about. This.
Yep, a worldwide pandemic was all about stealing votes for Biden. You solved it.
Definitely should be looked into, but I’m not sure why this is being treated as breaking news. Like it or not, dead people vote every year. Just google “dead people voting 20XX election” and you’ll see what I mean. Happened in 2012, 2016, 2018 and of course 2020. There were almost assuredly dead people that voted for Trump as well, but no one is looking because it is not currently advantageous to do so.
+1 Exactly, this isn't a smoking gun yet. Unfortunately, every election has a few of these. That's why there are long running jokes such as "I voted Republican all my life but when I died, I voted Democrat".
Now, if there is an unusually high number of these cases, then I would be concerned.
118 years old? Probably still alive. Any proof he's dead?
Lol. The oldest man in the world is currently 112 years old.
It’s terrible but at least the mongoloids aren’t taking the senate i.e. no new taxes
Mitch McConnell is the most effective politician of our era imo. Man is amazing at getting shit done for his party and equally amazing at completely throttling the Dems' actions through creative and resourceful obstruction. Love him or hate him, it's tough to argue with the results. He does look like a turtle though
Legitimately lol’ed. +1 SB
Definitely hate him not love him
Looks like that is still TBD. They are going for NC
This happens every year... it’s pretty much always someone with the same name (often a child)
Y'all are kidding with this right? This happened last election and could very well be a clerical error/missed input.
From 538's feed:
Think both sides are smelling their own farts a little too hard.
Nobody farts more from his mouth than Nate Silver when it comes to elections
I just love that Tucker Carlson and Seam Hannity ran their mouth on PA for 2 hours tonight while GA count kept going down next to their head. Can’t claim anything there given it’s a Republican run state. Same exact trends
The counts in Georgia are coming out of Atlanta, which has a large Democrat political machine.
Still overseen by Governor and Secretary of State. Weird they aren’t intervening if there is fraud or some other violation going on if the gap shrinking so fast?
Most likely won't change the election results, but it should really be looked into.
The only cheating I've seen is the Trump campaign trying to get his Pennsylvania supporters to turn in their mail in ballots past the deadline, which is illegal.
Trump even "joked" about his supporters voting twice in NC if I recall correctly.
To preface, I am fine with him going to court all he wants but this whole thing was a setup.
1.) Claim the only way you can lose is fraud months before the election. Followers believe him.
2.) Claim mail ballots are going to be fraudulent multiple times (except in Florida). Repeat so followers believe. Repetition is key.
3.) Republican state legislators prevent tossup states from counting and processing mail in ballots before election day.
4.) Convince party to vote in person complete.
5.) Almost all your votes(GOP) are in on election day and Americans expect to find the results quickly. GOP supporters see a map of red and think Trump won.
6.) Slowly count millions of mail in ballots and give Trump time to claim fraud and "Stop the Count" (GA, PA, MI, WI) in some states and "Keep Counting in Others" (AZ/NV).
He makes America look pathetic when he encourages others to do what he claims is done to him. I find the whole thing pathetic. It undermines democracy and polarizes the country to feed his ego.
Won't change a thing. Have fun drowning in conservative tears for 4 years.
"BuT mUh FRaUd!!!!"
Mate, I don't even support Trump. Grow up.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/05/facebook-posts/no-dea…
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