Corporate Machiavelli, Final Message

To those disturbed by the content of the CM Writings,


I am genuinely surprised.


Most of you have read 'The 48 Laws Of Power', and the CM Writings are no more or less offensive than that.

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Gonna be honest, what kind of person would spend their final days shilling/feeling the need to spread this kind of stuff on twitter/online forums. I dabble in the so called "intellectual dark web", but I hate this stuff. People shilling their thoughts, selling ebooks (although it looks like his writings are free), and acting as if they are God Almighty.

 

"...acting as if they are God Almighty."

I published a collection of writings, free of charge.

How is this acting like 'God Almighty' ?

Gonna be honest, what kind of person would spend their final days shilling/feeling the need to spread this kind of stuff on twitter/online forums. I dabble in the so called "intellectual dark web", but I hate this stuff. People shilling their thoughts, selling ebooks (although it looks like his writings are free), and acting as if they are God Almighty.

Corporate Machiavelli
 

thats some real cringe shit touted at highschoolers trying to be "machiavelli"

ill just leave this here

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edit: added one more example:

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All I said was that good looking men who are rich, are considered more attractive, than ugly men who are poor.

Is this a controversial statement?

Are you denying that this is true?

Do you think that Physical Attractiveness and Socioeconomic Status have no impact on a man's success or failure in the dating market?

Corporate Machiavelli
 
Funniest

not a wrong or controversial statement, just not a particular enlightening one, its like me telling everyone that water is wet and the sky is blue

and from the few articles i have skimmed through, you are just pulling one-liners out of your ass and state them as facts without any elaboration whatsoever 

now ofc everyone can post bs on the internet and some morons will eat it up (like the first few comments above), but i just like to offer a word of caution to any dumbass highschooler/fratbro/hardo that is reading this:

no credentials, calls himself "corporate machiavelli" (lol), writes like he has a stick up his ass

for all we know youre its just a neckbeard raving on in your moms basement jerking yourself off to being "machiavelli"

I hope you appreciate my insight

yours sincerely,

WSO user, [email protected]

signed on March the 4th, 2021

 

To those disturbed by the content of the CM Writings,

I am genuinely surprised.

Most of you have read 'The 48 Laws Of Power', and the CM Writings are no more or less offensive than that.

Corporate Machiavelli
 

I read through it earlier and have been thinking about what makes this philosophy distasteful to me, even though much of the writing may be accurate/useful. 

It seems to me that this worldview places almost all its value on external perceptions of your life. In my opinion, while external factors are certainly related to quality of life (it's nice to be rich), the true determinant is  your intrinsic perception. 

In other words, this seems to view power and how successful other people see you as an end in and of itself. But I think what really matters is your own perception of how good your life is. 

And from that standpoint, living your life entirely in relation to how much closer each action will bring you to "power" or "success" probably won't lead to an intrinsically fulfilling life. 

Don't define yourself by how others see you (or in relation to other people)

 

That is understandable.

Thank you for offering an articulate point of disagreement.

The writings do focus on Money/Power/"Success", and of course, these are not the only things in life that matter.

Approaching the end of my life has made me realize that. 

Ayther

Thanks for sharing this. I read through it earlier and have been thinking about what makes this philosophy distasteful to me, even though much of the writing may be accurate/useful. 

It seems to me that this worldview places almost all its value on external perceptions of your life. In my opinion, while external factors are certainly related to quality of life (it's nice to be rich), the true determinant is  your intrinsic perception. 

In other words, this seems to view power and how successful other people see you as an end in and of itself. But I think what really matters is your own perception of how good your life is. 

And from that standpoint, living your life entirely in relation to how much closer each action will bring you to "power" or "success" probably won't lead to an intrinsically fulfilling life. 

Don't define yourself by how others see you (or in relation to other people)

Corporate Machiavelli
 

Bravo, CM. I thought the writings were insightful and thought me new words including mental health terms and tied to real life examples/lessons to Big 5 personality traits.  As someone who has high agreeableness, I’ve had the fortune of having to adapt to working with narcissists and people with borderline personality disorder of both genders (after reading CM and looking this term up) and protecting myself.  Things have not always worked out, but from these experiences, I believe I can work with anyone (as CM wrote).  I had a hodgepodge of experiences that could be summed up nicely in these writings. 

Even if you think CM’s writing is dark, it is good to know to recognize how others play the game. Someone mentioned they preferred other tenets to live by, and that’s fine.  I am also a fan of Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People (sent a copy to a high schooler few months ago). There are different approaches.  I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading CM over this weekend. Pattern recognition is important part of level two thinking and thus decision making / judgement.  Also learning from past experiences, not accepting that they were random occurrences but instead part of patterns rooted in human psychology.  A few of my friends don’t care for this stuff (too complicated), but they also spend their mental energies on hedonistic pursuits on the weekends whereas I’m curious about this stuff in my free time. 
I have kids and although I’m not going to teach them Machiavelli, some of their innate behaviors are Machiavellian and others they will learn.  I hope sooner than I did. 

Have compassion as well as ambition and you’ll go far in life. Check out my blog at MemoryVideo.com
 

Ok, if you're ever gone, I'll miss you guys. 

Reading you guys for the past 3 years, and applying your principles into my career, I feel like I've grown with you guys and your blog posts during this time. 

Please 1 of you continue on with championing the torch! 

 

CM (Bob) has passed away per his Twitter.  I don’t know how long ago.

I don’t think he was appreciated here

But I found many of the off-topic posts on WSO to have meaning and connection to his work.

I’ve observed things CM wrote that could have led to different outcomes in my life, or contributed to where I ended up.  And where I can go.

- feelings of depression due to loss of work, purpose.

- toxic work environments

- lack of ability to get a girl friend, or feelings of hopelessness 

- target vs non-target mindset

You have these mental constructs, but are unaware that human nature, society pushes you to very predictable behavior.  I feel like by recognizing these patterns (zooming out), you will be better at overcoming challenges.

Google: Corporate Machiavelli  

Have compassion as well as ambition and you’ll go far in life. Check out my blog at MemoryVideo.com
 

Rest in peace. I remember seeing this when it was first posted but haven't read any of his blog. Think I'll give 48 laws of power a look and depending on how that plays maybe I'll dive a bit deeper.

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

Philosophy can be seen as a way to view the world and your relation to it. Philosophers spent great lengths understanding their place in it from a multi-faceted approach. Stoic philosophers believed that to be right meant to utilize the reasoned choice, the only thing in your control whereas everything else, including your very body and breath, your position in society, your wealth and material posessions, you can merely influence. Buddist teachings focus heavily on restraint from evils or toxins that may cloud judgement. Despite which religion or school of thought hailed for philosophy, there was an underlying understanding for the profound and complex nature of humanity. Whether it was in reference to the need for belonging or self-actualization or toward the cautionary note of trying to chase happiness, perfection, or pleasure. In essence, all of these philosophical teachings speak on seperating the perception of good from the cultivation of value. Whether it's stoicism's teachings of temperance and self-restraint or otherwise.

In your pieces, you speak from a one-dimensional, single faucet perspective. You consider external traits as the sole reason for an existance. All in all, the tone derived from the articles I've read are devoid of empathy, compassion or nuance. For instance, in your peice, "The Battle of Credibility", you didn't highlight the intrinsic values of what it means to be credible; to be credible, is a factual statemnet, the credibility of an individual falls or rises with how well he sticks to his own words are performs to the expectations set by himself or those around him seperate of externalities. You positioned the claim as a subjective statement that can be questioned which seems boarderline illogical. For instance, you've entitled a few sections on "Appear Calm" and "Don't Appear Bitter/Angry" which tell me that you yourself are not calm nor without anger and instead of teaching or studying how to alleviate anger or remain centered in high-pressured arguemnts, you've simply supressed your emotions for the outward appearance of serenity.

I could go on and pick apart each article and it's tinted perception, but the gist can be summarized by this statement: your articles almost purely focus on your perception of value to others; the perception others hold you in high regard, the perception that you are credible or the perception that you are desirable. However, none of them speak to the effort or systems in place to actually cultivate value. 

 

I read through your blog and found it interesting.

I’m super intrigued because I had some free time today and really thought about your takes and what’s funny is I already employ them naturally.
 

1) For example, be associated with positivity; only engaging with my “superiors” when they’re in a great mood or something nice is going on and never being associated with bad news.

2) Also the under promise and over deliver, I have certain material I’ve put together for our team and they think it takes days/multiple hours when it takes me an hour, I just never surface that. Or if I’ve automated something through excel that took me a minute I just wait a couple days to send it.

3) only be associated with good people. Pretty self explanatory, some team members have a bad rep (ie anti social, whatever) and I always stay away. But I’ve always developed closer relationships with the rainmakers on our team and make sure to do quality work for them even if it’s menial work because they usually bring my name up to my boss. Even when I was new I’d always notice a certain 1-2 people on the email chain first always and naturally heard my boss slowly talking a lot about how good they are so I did my best to integrate with them more.

4) “Cold reading is the ability to make accurate deductions regarding an individual’s psychological makeup from nothing more than looking at them.”

this one popped out to me too - I mean, you wouldn’t talk/express certain things to Person A who wears Patagonia and looks phenotypically higher class (controversial) versus person B who is and has an unconventional hairstyle and wears tight clothing

Again,  interesting reads

 

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