SanityCheck:
I'm not saying this is true in your case but usually this means you got dinged for a sensitive/confidential reason. One story from my school is that there was a girl interviewing who was a huge drug user and two fraternities ratted her out to the alum who was interviewing and she was insta-dinged.

There is no way that this is true. If by some remote chance it is it's completely ridiculous that these frat dudes would intervene in any way.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..
 

agree with sanity, it doesnt mean there's nothing wrong with you, it means there's something they wont tell you. Could be you, could also be the other applicant brought in knee pads/was the bosses son etc and the entire application process was a big charade.

although i will agree with you, its pretty funny, especially when listening to the improv by HR when she realises she hasnt read what the fuck she picked up before speaking.

 

the other kids could've nailed the technicals even better =p

actually a really good interview would involve no technicals because they already want you and can tell they dont need to quiz you on anything.

 
couchy:

actually a really good interview would involve no technicals because they already want you and can tell they dont need to quiz you on anything.

haha, what the fuck, yer a really good interview consist of you rocking up and signing the contract.....
"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 

Is feedback common? I've never seen that before but hear about it all the time on here from kids going through the interview process now. I don't think I ever had that from anyone, and have never given it to anyone I've had to reject.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
BlackHat:
Is feedback common? I've never seen that before but hear about it all the time on here from kids going through the interview process now. I don't think I ever had that from anyone, and have never given it to anyone I've had to reject.

Agree. Never heard of something like this before, at least in person.

Clearly this isn't proper feedback and shows little respect for the people applying/interviewing. Business courtesy, people leadership, corporate values or at the very least "attention to detail" obliges. I personally find it very strange, particularly coming from a BB, not to mention the second feedback...even more wrongly crafted, amateur-class.

As some monkeys already said, when we interview we make sure to give feedback (positve aspects, what we found interesting, what did not fit 100%) and if turn down somebody with no apparent negative points (as in you mention was your case) we explain it plainly, as it was: there were no negative points, but decided for other candidate who was closer to (i) role, (ii) expectations, (iii) team considerations or (iv) the CEO.

Quite unprofessional from the HR lady too, not to even have a look in advance at the sheet or ask the interviewers for meat for the call. Also going back to check and taking one week to give that answer?

Regarding the other theory about having a "hidden" reason they would not tell, I have no experience with this, as in all processes I have attended (interviewing and as candidate) I have had the luck to hold "straight" talks. But again, I cannot completely why somebody would not just say "you did very well, however the other candidate was a closer match" end of the story.

Anyways, it seems you have a strong pitch, so go for it and make it work at their competitors/peers. good luck!

 
Guest1655:
Are you black gay jew or asian? Maybe those elitist pricks only hire waspy people in their group.

haha don't know why I found this so funny

also, OP, it seems like you shouldn't have too big a problem in future interviews.... so there's that!

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

I'm not black/gay/jew/asian or a drug user etc.

I got technicals but after a couple they stopped - infact one of them said 'you clearly have done your homework and you know the stuff well' - then moved onto more personality type ques. I thought it went well tbh.

(Its not true that the best interviews have no technicals. Loads of people I know sometimes have a full blown technical interview and get an offer.)

I'm guessing it was the quality of other applicants. Most of them were from Europe, way older/were completing a Masters in Finance and had done several IB internships beforehand. Although most of them sat there in silence until a conversation was initiated (mostly by myself and another undergrad lol). They should record the 'outside interview' performance as well as what the candidate fakes inside the interview... would be fun to watch.

Yes feedback is available in the UK if you get to the interview stage.

 
Charles-perry:
). They should record the 'outside interview' performance as well as what the candidate fakes inside the interview... would be fun to watch.

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totally agree with this! the ability to banter with HR girls ( i rock this) and actually chat to others outside of a formal setting is important and should be (if possible) assessed
"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 
Charles-perry:
it was the quality of other applicants. Most of them were from Europe, way older/were completing a Masters in Finance and had done several IB internships beforehand.

That is exactly why you didn't get it...

"Well, you know, I was a human being before I became a businessman." -- George Soros
 
Futures Trader Man:
karypto:
OP how tall are you, maybe they went for the six footer.

or AT LEAST the 6 incher... wait what???

saying 'wait what?' is one of my favorite things. is it still cool to the cool kids? thx

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..
 

I interviewed at a firm for a corporate lending position and had a pretty weird experience as well. I developed a great rapport with at least half of my super day interviewers, one particularly had a very enjoyable industry conversation with me and was very impressed with me knowledge of the qualitative trends affecting the industry and told me that I could reach out to him anytime, etc. Had 2 other great interviews (the other 2 were average). Was very surprised to found out I was rejected and I decided to email my interviewers for feedback and express interest in reapplying and never heard back. Was really surprising given how nice/collegial everyone was and the rapport we developed.

 
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I interviewed at a firm for a corporate lending position and had a pretty weird experience as well. I developed a great rapport with at least half of my super day interviewers, one particularly had a very enjoyable industry conversation with me and was very impressed with me knowledge of the qualitative trends affecting the industry and told me that I could reach out to him anytime, etc. Had 2 other great interviews (the other 2 were average). Was very surprised to found out I was rejected and I decided to email my interviewers for feedback and express interest in reapplying and never heard back. Was really surprising given how nice/collegial everyone was and the rapport we developed.
shit happens. just because you had a good rapport, doesn't mean someone else didnt' fuckin' blow them away.

recently i had a situation where the hiring MD called me up, said they were "very impressed" with me and were "amazed at how much i'd learned in my short time" in the industry and that they just had to dot some "i"s and cross some "t"s and that i'd get a call at the end of the week. i didn't get the job. shit happens.

"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 
BanditPandit:
are you butt ugly? they definitely won't say that on paper. be honest.

I lol'd like crazy to this. But in all seriousness, there are studies that show attractive people have a much higher success rate than those less good looking. And before any of you tarts start whining, the studies are available through google and bloomberg. I remember a guy on bloomberg radio about 2 months ago talking about this very same thing.

 

I recently had the opportunity to sit on the other side of the table and interview people, rather than be interviewed. Although this was for a student club, the simple change in perspective was quite an experience and I learnt a lot from it...

When I was an interviewee, the main things on my mind were: - Am I good enough? - Am I smart enough? - Am I well dressed enough? - Do I have enough examples to back up any assertions I make (i.e. I am a hard worker etc..)

While these are obviously important things to take into account, I never realised that I was missing the most important question: Am I what my interviewer/firm is looking for?

We had a large number of applicants to interview and only a very limited number of spots available. Out of those who interviewed, many of them were very capable people. Able to get work done, reliable, sharp etc.. However, many of them were not what we were looking for.

Their cover letters went on and on about how they could work well under pressure, good organisational skills etc. But what we were looking for was someone who could not only get work done, but also bring a new dimension or skillset to the club. Only 2 or 3 applicants actually nailed that - and they were obviously the ones who eventually got through.

Also, when there is an abundance of labour supply, an interviewer can start to be really picky about what they want in their ideal candidate. Aside from being hardworking, reliable, smart etc, people can start to come up with all sorts of random quirky selection criterias (i.e. ethnicity/gender/color of your suit/height/build/what car you drive etc..)

Another interesting thing I discovered from the process was the importance of the activities/interests part of the applicants resumes. I found that I tended to subconsciously favour people with similar interests/activities a lot more than those without - often, that meant that there was more in common to talk about etc

Bottom line: You may have been rejected, not because you were not capable, but because either: 1) You were not what they were looking for 2) Some tiny thing which is often not within your control may have differentiated someone more than you 3) Someone else just totally stole the show

 

Things I would do differently for future applications/interviews:

  1. Cover Letter

- Short and concise - Less generic bullshit about how I'm a hard worker, pay attention to detail, can pull long hours - More shit about unique any skillsets that I can bring to the team that would differentiate me from others - Sometimes, less is more

  1. Interview

- Tell me about yourself: Make it interesting - make an impression within the first 20 secs (cliche, but I often decided within the first 20 seconds whether or not someone would progress) - When selling yourself: think about what the ideal candidate would be, and market yourself to fit that mould, rather than shamelessly marketing every good quality about yourself that you can think about

Easiest analogy I can think of would be where a prospective car buyer chooses to buy a red car over a blue car. Might not actually have been much of a difference between both cars but the red car was a closer match to what he is looking for.

Just my 2c worth.

 

Yeah, but how bad of a drug user was she really? It'd be hard to trust anything tattle-tales say, especially when they're college aged.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

You may have failed the fit portion of the interview. It's sometimes really hard/awkward to give negative feedback on fit, and your interviewers or HR will make up some other reason for your rejection when you ask.

"'In summary, people are morons and who cares. Make a shit ton of money. I've never seen a Ferrari paid for by what people think.' - ANT" -rufiolove
 

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