Investing in the US in return for Citizenship - a path for rich immigrants
thoughts monkeys?
those from other countries - if you had the means and wanted to move here, would you consider doing this?
from npr:
A Path For Rich ImmigrantsThe immigration program for the rich was designed to provide a boost to the U.S. economy, and it costs very little to give out the visas. The program allows 10,000 people a year to immigrate using the investment method. It's never reached that limit, but it is getting more popular every year. In 2012, about 7,600 made use of the program.
Some of those dollars are going to the Barclay's Center, the new home of the NBA's Brooklyn Nets.
Bloomberg News reports that more than $200 million of the loans to build the arena came from foreigners who were using the investment to get into the U.S. The business plan predicts that in the end, it will create more than 5,000 jobs.
That's how it's supposed to work, but often the projects funded by the EB-5 visas are not quite as glamorous.
David North, a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, says the government's rules for these visas encourage investment in depressed areas, rural places and inner cities. These are places where private investment is scarce and often risky.
"The investments that are open to an EB-5 investor are really rock-bottom, marginal investments," North says. "These are essentially small, usually real estate investments of some kind [and] small construction investments."
North says one of the other problems with the rules is that the investors have very few responsibilities to make sure the project works.
"We're not bringing entrepreneurs to this country in this program," he says, "we're bringing passive investors."
Economic Or Immigration Program?
The federal government doesn't release numbers to show how many of the investments succeed or fail. Dune Lawrence, an investigative reporter with Bloomberg News, has tried to figure it out. She tells NPR's Smith that the program has several problems.
"The basic problem starts with the fact that it's an economic development program run by an immigration agency," Lawrence says. "The immigration agency is focused on immigration."
That focus by the agency, of handling the applications and paperwork concerned with the investor's immigration status, makes it unprepared to handle the economic side of the program, Lawrence says.
The only data released by the government is how many green cards were issued through the program, she says, which doesn't tell you how many investments actually succeeded in the long term.
"It's all based on the economic assumptions that were made at the beginning of the project," she says, "and if they can show that they're in the process of spending the money then that's that."
Despite all the questions, defenders of the program say that money is money. Maybe some rich foreigners could lose their stake and perhaps some won't create the right number of jobs, but it is a real — if relatively tiny — bump in investment in U.S. businesses.
Mark Jones, a political science professor at Rice University in Texas, says that overall he thinks the program is good for the economy.
"It is bringing in money ... and investment to the United States that otherwise might not have come here," he says.
Jones says just as you can find anecdotal evidence of failure, you can find a bunch of examples of successful projects funded with foreign investment. In Texas, he's looked at successful strip malls, horse-racing enterprises and real estate projects funded by immigrants that seem to be working.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/26/170358985/investing-in-citizenship-for-th…
Worth paying for Swiss or maybe Singaporean citizenship, but not US citizenship, IMO
As someone who came to this country when I was younger, I have to say it’s become overrated. I’m happy for the opportunities I have been given, but there are many problems here as well. Go somewhere with more intelligent and cultured people, a place with decent healthcare, food that is not filled with chemicals, men that are masculine, somewhere where you don’t have to pay a fortune for a barely mediocre education...I could go on and on. Go to Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands, the Nordic countries etc.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Yes and no. It's still one of the best countries out there for social and economic freedoms, if that's what you're looking for. Countries that are great options for expats imo:
Switzerland- stability, economic and social freedom. Keep in mind that the Swiss are friggin weird, so if you don't like them, don't move there. Also, much freedom at the federal level, but the cantons and local laws take some of those away
Singapore- stability, economic freedom. As an expat you'll probably have a great time, the social freedoms are a lot more restrictive for their citizens. Don't do drugs here
Australia- stability, solid economic freedoms, social freedom. Awesome country, great option for US expats
Nordic countries- stability, social freedoms. You take a hit on the economic freedom front, but you live in a country whose system works (because the countries are rich as shit, but nevertheless...). Oh, and it's fucking cold as shit
Netherlands- errr why, besides the asses/women? they're all fucking racist, don't move there if you're black, or even dark.
Canada- they're cool. I'd check it out if it wasn't so cold.
Lol compared to the US, most of Europe is incredibly racist. Eastern Europe is the worst. You can get the life beaten out of you on the street just for having darker skin. Some of the most xenophobic people you will ever meet. And the scary part is that it's not even some kind of hopeless low-lifes, but incredibly educated people as well that you would expect to be naturally more inclined to be enlightened. I remember my Mexican friend and I were walking into a restaurant/lounge in St. Petersburg and we were refused service, because they thought she was Central Asian. And that's supposed to be the most culturally aware city in Russia!
As an immigrant myself, I'd better be a citizen of the country that has more chances to defend itself from a major war :D
they do this in brasil - you need to show that youve invested $150k reais and hired 3-4 brasileiros and then you can become a perm resident
I moved to Brazil for a while to live in the rainforrest. Lot's of freedom there, but no healthcare, so when I caught jungle fever I had to move to Africa.
Why would anyone with money go to a high tax jurisdiction like the us when u can go to Switzerland Monaco Liechtenstein HK Singapore lol
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