Is it just me or is "Vivek Ramaswamy" not unique at all contrary to what people say
What I mean is every time I read something about him it seems like everyone says he has some new energy or is very refreshing or whatever because people haven't seen someone like him. I've seen that in news articles, reddit, and threads on here. Now I feel like a lot of us have very similar backgrounds(very good high school in a major city/suburb of it, top 25 or so undergrad etc) and hence our circles and bubbles are different from most of America. I went to a high school in a very wealthy area with a lot of Indian Americans and my college has a lot of them too. I literally know so many "Viveks" like a good 30% of them are like him. Just walk into a frat at some top school and you'll find a crap ton of Viveks hanging around. They're all very intelligent and ex-debate champions or whatever so very charismatic but are also very edgy and extremely right wing often use the n-word a lot despite basically being "white". I don't know just a random thought because I haven't bought into his gimmick at all. This dude used to rap too I can't even begin to name how many of my Indian friends are wannabee rappers.
I think Kamala is quite unique too. Not many people have had the same path!
What happened to OPs comment shilling for nicky haley?
Decided that it wasn't relevant to the post
“I think Nicky Haley is the only candidate on the stage that’s actually unique and stands out!”
That was OPs “not relevant” comment
WSO seeing Vivek as someone to pay attention to just shows how many here know very little about American political history. Gone by Iowa.
So… you have a problem with his race?
I have a love/hate relationship with him. He's been amazing on the woke stuff--he was one of the first people to really identify it as a corrosive, institution-destroying cancer. He's an articulate defender of libertarian-oriented conservatism. On the other hand, he just came out of nowhere a few years ago--maybe 2020 or so. But similar to Kari Lake, he has a long history of backing Democrats, and not just moderate Ds--we're talking liberal Democrats. I'd like for him to articulate when and why he became a conservative (or the process of becoming one). Ronald Reagan had a long, public evolution, for example. The grifters on the right and left tend to come out of nowhere with no discernible reason for why their politics undergo a polar shift seemingly overnight (examples among the Democrats would be the guys from the Lincoln Project, who were hardcore Republican activists/consultants who are now about as far to the left as Bernie Sanders). Also, I'm a DeSantis man and I don't think Ramaswamy is actually running for the nomination--I think he's in there to sabotage DeSantis to benefit Trump. Since I loathe Donald Trump, it makes me really dislike Ramaswamy.
Personally, I think you are focusing too much on his identity. "He's just another rich Indian kid with the gift of gab" is an abridged version of what you're saying (correct me if I am wrong - I'm not trying to put words in your mouth)
Judge him on his post high school academics, professional background / success, charisma, energy, as well as his policy ideas (especially those). Those are much more unique and relevant than his race and family background.
I don't think it's fair to say that he is just a Trump clone. Personally I find him a lot more charismatic, well-spoken and less divisive than Trump. Policy wise while he is America first (like Trump) I think there are differences between his and Trump's policies and approach. It's a bit unfair now that if you want to put America first you are viewed as a basic ass Trump shill. Trump is such a larger than life and polarizing character that any time you agree with him on anything people accuse you of being a biased fanboy... It's like you can't be viewed as an independent thinker and will be lumped in the MAGA wagon immediately.
I think this post got somewhat misinterepreted. I was just making an observation of how he is like a lot of people I/a lot of people here would know while to many others he's kind of popped up as a sensation by being very different. Its kind of like how Brett Kavanaugh was a typical white frat bro but that's something most people see and recognize all the time.
Just say you love sucking up to wokeness and/or choking on the big sloppy dong of the military industrial complex already, just ya gurl like icky Nicky and most of the other clowns on debate night. The sheer fucking hubris to present that amount of blatantly incorrect or deliberately mis-framed talking points through the lens of the same pro-war propaganda that lied the US into Afghanistan and Iraq is just disgusting. I was also genuinely terrified Chris Christie was going lose control and either eat someone or trip, fall, and kill half of the audience at any moment.
What are your thoughts on him?
He's basically the Indian equivalent of Buttigieg (not that his ethnicity has anything to do with it). They've got the same exact style. Polished but empty.
Flashes in the pan who can't or won't have a substantive discussion about anything that matters.
What politicians are truly unique, though? Trump certainly is - partly for the wrong reasons. Everyone else reads from the same script their party writes, sometimes verbatim.
Bill Clinton and Reagan were actually two great examples of Presidents and candidates who actually seemed to enjoy being around people. Clinton especially was great in crowds, fairs, festivals, etc. I do not see that with many modern politicians, but Trump is actually one of the few. Until someone can actually do retail politics, I think we’re doomed to keep experiencing these “empty” feeling entities.
I don't really follow politics, but I think it's worth noting that certain individuals, including Ramaswamy, Romney, Bloomberg, have each achieved notable success in business for various reasons, but this doesn't necessarily seamlessly translate into the ability to receive an endorsement for the demanding and highly specific role of Potus. This can be attributed to the specialized nature of the position, which may not attract all the most suitable prospective candidates b/c of inherent stressors and distinct requirements.
Additionally, some people may be great in the field of politics, though they may not have achieved comparable prominence within the business domain (probably most politicians who didn't become lobbists, book writers or take some role in the private sector).
Fair, only 1 seat for potus every 4 years, and job not for everyone
Just hearing about how Ramaswamy got rich. The accusation is that he engaged in a pump and dump. He bought an Alzheimer’s drug with virtually no hope of working, manipulated phase 3 trial results, IPOed his 1 product company, went on TV to promote it to retail investors, sold his stock, and the stock collapsed 99% in a single day when phase 4 trials failed. I think if he gets more popular we’ll start to get a closer critique of what went down.
Agree sounds sketchy.
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