J. EPSTEIN & Co. Internship

Don’t condone Jeffrey’s alleged behavior, but recently saw his docuseries on Netflix.

How the fuck did this guy get so rich? How did he know, almost literally everyone? During my SA stint back in the day, I remember seeing him visit with my MD and the firm’s founder. Even before that, I’m pretty sure I saw him while at Harvard. Not sure about the latter, but obviously he wasn’t infamous back then.

Besides being a pedo, what skills did JE possess that allowed him to get so impressively far in life? Charm? Intellect? Street smarts? Mystery?

Thoughts?

 
Most Helpful

Check out the solo podcast from Eric Weinstein on the topic, pretty interesting. (The Portal - ep. 25 on YouTube)

Edit: I'm sorry, just checked again myself, its ep. 25.

 

The reason certain people like Epstein or Bernie Madoff get to where they are in life is that they have qualities like charm and intelligence that would have made them successful even if they weren't pedo rapists or scam artists, respectively.

Epstein had connections, seems to be a personable guy, was intelligent enough to make money, and I'm sure got lucky like everyone who makes that much money does. None of that has really anything to do with his...other interests. Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor. Bill Cosby was a father figure to many. Jerry Sandusky was a championship winning football coach.

People can be good at things and still be fucking horrible people.

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 
CRE:
The reason certain people like Epstein or Bernie Madoff get to where they are in life is that they have qualities like charm and intelligence that would have made them successful even if they weren't pedo rapists or scam artists, respectively.

Epstein had connections, seems to be a personable guy, was intelligent enough to make money, and I'm sure got lucky like everyone who makes that much money does. None of that has really anything to do with his...other interests. Kevin Spacey is a fantastic actor. Bill Cosby was a father figure to many. Jerry Sandusky was a championship winning football coach.

People can be good at things and still be fucking horrible people.

I'm as pro-epstein as anyone but there is a lot of skepticism about what he actually DID for a living. Few people on wall street were able to say they traded with him, which is (supposedly) a red flag. He did buy into a syndicated debt piece where Apollo was the issuer (I think that was the story) but you can do that with your eyes closed and it doesn't say much of anything.
Making partner at Bear Stearns is impressive but I haven't heard anyone say he was good at anything after that.
 

I'd saying an intelligence asset helps (and before anyone thinks I'm being conspiratorial, I'm going off what Former Labor Secretary Alex Acosta said). I'd go on about his ties to Ghilsane Maxwell (and her father, Robert - he was allegedly working for Israeli Intelligence and recieved a State Funeral in Isreal, which alone would be usual but speaks volumes to there being something up about that) or the allegations that his mansion was wired for surveillance, however conspiratorial it sounds, but I think Acosta's comments speak loudly for itself. I think that definitely allowed him to a trump card in in his back pocket, so to speak.

 

Here's an article dated March 2003 about him by Vanity Fair.

VanityFair:
Some of the businessmen who dine with him at his home ... sometimes seem not all that clear as to what he actually does to earn his millions. Certainly, you won't find Epstein's transactions written about on Bloomberg or talked about in the trading rooms. "The trading desks don't seem to know him. It's unusual for animals that big not to leave any footprints in the snow," says a high-level investment manager.
VanityFair:
Why do billionaires choose him as their trustee? Because the problems of the mega-rich, he tells people, are different from yours and mine, and his unique philosophy is central to understanding those problems: ...
VanityFair:
Gell-Mann rather sweetly mentions that "there are always pretty ladies around" when he goes to dinner chez Epstein, and he's under the impression that Epstein's clients include the Queen of England. Both Nowak and Dershowitz were thrilled to find themselves shaking the hand of a man named "Andrew" in Epstein's house. "Andrew" turned out to be Prince Andrew, who subsequently arranged to sit in the back of Dershowitz's law class.
VanityFair:
One reporter, in fact, received three threats from Epstein while preparing a piece. They were delivered in a jocular tone, but the message was clear: There will be trouble for your family if I don't like the article.
VanityFair:
Epstein is known about town as a man who loves women—lots of them, mostly young. Model types have been heard saying they are full of gratitude to Epstein for flying them around, and he is a familiar face to many of the Victoria's Secret girls. One young woman recalls being summoned by Ghislaine Maxwell to a concert at Epstein's town house
 

yeah he was a wealth manager for billionaires

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

His entire "Hedge-Fund" was a front for his pedo/party network. "Investors" payed him for his services (access to underage girls, access to high-level individuals, invites to parties with high-level individuals etc.).

 

Am I the only person who would like to know where the hell Ghislaine Maxwell is? She was right at the center of this with Epstein, and apparently did a lot of the actual sexual abuse herself along with orchestrating it. In so many of the photos she's creepily smirking in the background.

This whole thing might the most insane story of the 21st century. What we know so far may well be only the tip of the iceberg, especially if they really did have blackmail material on so many powerful people.

 

She’s probably in a 3rd world country by the beach living as an undercover rich person.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
VP in IB - Gen:
what skills did JE possess that allowed him to get so impressively far in life?

master manipulator

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Magni quisquam aliquam esse officia sequi eum. Est nihil illo est. Libero voluptate ut ut et. Aut consequatur ducimus in doloribus in soluta. Aut ratione iure iusto in ullam porro distinctio.

Sunt ut dolores error et est. Perferendis blanditiis voluptatem facilis quia recusandae. Reiciendis occaecati facere nemo repellat ut. Dignissimos nisi dolore mollitia ut consequuntur.

Nam eaque dolor in iste error excepturi. Qui nisi consectetur blanditiis ea. Velit temporibus omnis et ut nesciunt vero consectetur. Commodi voluptatem nulla aspernatur consectetur tempora sunt. Modi eum beatae qui quam qui nihil.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (20) $385
  • Associates (88) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
8
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
numi's picture
numi
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”