Joe biden is a complete joke

Anyone but Trump. Absolutely anyone but Trump.

Solid contribution to the forum. Definitely needed its own thread.

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No one is arguing Biden is not a return to normal candidate, but I will not vote for someone who is senile and cant put together a sentence. I hate to say it but the radical part of the democratic party is gonna use him to get their agenda passed. Look at Portland where the city has been on fire for 70+ days. You have Jerry Nadler saying Antifa isn't real. I can't in good faith vote for that. Democrats blew it, you could of had Tulsi or Yang.

The media has done a great job at keeping the below comment from resurfacing. Either that, or Biden is doing a terrible job at hiding his unconscious racism and keeps spitting out fresh new slips that make you question his authenticity as an ally. To me, this and the "you ain't black" comments from May underscore a deeply rooted, truly racist, if unintentional, perspective. I do not support Trump, but feel that everyone who wants to consider themselves an informed voter and likes to compare Trump and Biden on their character regarding issues around POC should know that Biden said these words concerning President Obama:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2838420&page=1

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16911044/ns/nbc_nightly_news_with_brian_willi…

As if MLKJ, Malcom X, John Lewis, Jamie Fox, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Thurgood Marshall, and countless others, were not relevant/articulate/bright/clean/good-looking enough to be recalled by the former VP.

You're not voting for Biden. He is the puppet for the democratic party who can attract older voters away from Trump.

What you are really voting for is RBG's replacement, ability to join back into the Paris agreement and less people dying from COVID. If you view this election as Trump vs Biden you are viewing it all wrong.

I honestly can't stand when people shit on Biden thinking he has any pull over decisions being made. His VP matters more than him.

This take from the anonymous OP is enteratining given trump's mental state and decline.

President "Yo-Semite" National Park makes virtually daily gaffes.

I have two observations. First, it is clear that Biden's mental state is worsening. However, it's arguable that Trump's mental state has worsened at a far greater rate. Ever notice how people show Biden's mental decline through short clips? Trump's mental decline is shown whenever he talks (Axios interview, Chris Wallace interview, Tulsa rally). I really just want them to debate so then there's not two different standards to how their competence is judged and/or portrayed. I will gladly walk back these statements if proven wrong.

Second, statements like these from Biden are highly problematic, but most of the negativity comes from Republicans who have had their vote for Trump locked in since 2016. I think the percentage of black Americans that prefer Biden to Trump speaks volumes, regardless of how many Trump or third party voters try to feign outrage on their behalf.

Anyway, I think everyone who's commented in this thread has their vote locked in unless something ridiculous happens. I'll be voting Trump if Karen Bass is the VP pick, for instance. We'll see if the attitudes on this site carries over to the ballots in November. As Obama once said: "Don't cry on WSO, vote."

Am I the only one that didn't find his statement about diversity very problematic?

Maybe it wasn't delivered with the best of words, but he is not wrong.

Many hispanics in this country are first generation Americans or immigrated recently. This means people from the Caribbean, South America, Europe, Mexico, and so on. All of these people fall under 'Hispanic'. People from totally different cultural backgrounds, beliefs, upbringings, faith, political affiliation, and so on.

In general terms, African American people in this country are NOT first generation Americans. And many face similar challenges, and thus vote similarly and care about many of the same issues (politically speaking). This is not opinion. Just look at the way they vote, it is much more predictable than the Hispanic vote.

I think that is sort of what was behind his comment. Not that black people are the same and hispanics are diverse. And I, myself, am hispanic.

Complaining about Biden’s mental state, while ignoring Trump’s lack of faculties is hilarious to me

It's such bullshit how there's a particular brand of "Republican" (scare quotes because I want to still believe you guys are not republicans, just proles that have hijacked the party) whose whole political outlook boils down to "but my guy isn't as bad as everyone says he is - look Joe Biden has issues too!" It's straight-up whataboutism, which I understand was invented/used to the greatest extent by communists - nice company you keep.

Stop implying, or outright arguing in bad faith that one, two, or even a bursting handful of gaffes by other politicians even begin to stack up to how completely unpresidential trump is. He has shown so many times, in so many ways, that he is not someone who cares much if at all about his countrymen, his character, his reputation, what it means to be American, or fuck all. The man is obsessed with shallow measures of himself and it shows. Let me remind you of a small sampling of things Trump has done, ranging from ill-advised, to off-color, to unethical, to arguably illegal:

• Made fun of a disabled reporter like a fucking schoolyard bully. How embarrassing for any decent, adult american with children to watch.

• Has a reputation for being both a shit businessman and a terrible counterparty - you as a wannabe banker should ascribe some weight to this unsavory fact. Why in the world would you want the nation to be led by a guy that you wouldn't make a loan to?

• Lies about every little thing he can to flimsily bolster his own flimsy image of himself. He's so thin skinned it's unbelievable, again completely unpresidential. Can't believe this sputtering, blubbering manchild vomits non-sequiturs and makes dumbfuck stern/duckface camera poses at cameras from behind the same resolute desk as the man that ended slavery and won the civil war, the man that charged up San Juan hill, the man who liberated Europe from the axis, the man who sent us to the moon, the man who recognized it was "a time for choosing".

• Appointed his useless nosferatu son in law and his shoe designer daughter to actual ambassadorships where they proceeded to accomplish precisely fuck-all. Still waiting on that Israel/Palestine solution that boy wonder promised us. Last I heard he was busy deciding not to do anything about COVID because then those libtard governors would look bad come election time - disgusting.

• Like a seething, incompetent vortex, he and his administration routinely suck in, atomize, and vent the remaining cosmic particulate of formerly accomplished men (like them or hate them) like Steve Bannon, Gary Cohn, Rex Tillerson, etc. because he is NOT an accomplished man, and he can't stand to listen to their wisdom. He'd rather flail around like a fucking child and alienate every good advisor that ever graced his doorstep because he's just too fucking bad at his job to understand that a president needs advisors for those times where they don't know what the fuck they're doing (which is how he must feel all the time). Nah, he'd rather wing it, because he's used to winging it after being born into money and spending all his formative/adult years making sloppily constructed "deals" with half rate lawyers, bankers and counterparties who were so desperate to make a buck that they just rolled their eyes and went with it.

• Was stoked that his buddies in Russia (intentionally or otherwise) put their finger on the scale to win him the election. Any dignified American president of Trump's age would be embarrassed to be seen as a toady of the Kremlin - then again, Trump is not a dignified American and he's hardly a president.

• Has demonstrated that he has as much respect for women as the social chair of your local campus rape society - whoops, I mean frat (for the avoidance of doubt, "not all frats")

• Has actually been caught red handed having unprotected sex with a washed up porn star, then paying her hush money from his campaign coffer, then not even being able to enforce his dumbfuck NDA. How dumb and impulsive do you have to be to think that six figures and a flimsy piece of paper negotiated by a two bit lawyer from Cooley University were going to protect you from that scandal? Too dumb and impulsive to be leading the free world.

• Has actually been caught red handed giving Cohen campaign funds to pay the porn star hush money - still don't get how that's not landed him in jail, guess the prosecutors figure they have a better case for themselves after he leaves office

• Literally the only thing Trump has done that I think deserves any credit is that he has, for the most part, stated the obvious fact that the emperor has no clothes as it relates to China. They are users, they are growing, and they are dangerous to a free world, and we need to extricate ourselves from the economic 69 they have been exploiting us through. That would be a point to his credit, except apparently he was willing to let all those bygones be bygones if Xi Jinping would just give him a headline to help win re-election in November, what a clown but unsurprising.

Yeah, Biden is a little bit mushy-brained these days. Yeah, it's likely the case that some political operative pulled him out of line at the glue factory and told him "Diamond Joe, your country needs you", prompting this campaign. But the country does need him. Because through a series of missteps in the early 2000's both Democrats and Republicans have made a Faustian bargain with the mouth-breathing, chest-beating proles on the fringes of their parties in order to score election victories and this has backfired because now the devil has come for his due, and the most sensational candidates are grandstanding, profligate idiots with no composure like Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, AOC / the squad.

So yeah - this year I changed my party to Democrat, made damn sure Joe won the primary, and will be voting for His Mushiness come November to hopefully put this dumpster fire back on the rails. It's so tempting to believe that people like these republicans aren't adult enough to be having political conversations or a vote, frankly, but enfranchising them is a necessary harm if we are to credibly be a democracy. I pray for a return to a day when Americans actually gave a shit about what their government was doing for them and the world rather than what their preferred candidate was doing to "pwn" the idiots on the other side.

Biden's absolute qualities do not matter all that much. As others have said, many people are voting against the current POTUS and with good reason. The current POTUS does not have the characteristics you would want in a president. Lets look at the following characteristics and the rank the current POTUS from 1 to 10, with one being the lowest rating and 10 being the highest

intellect = 5 selflessness = 1 puts country ahead of self = 1 honesty = 1 integrity = 1 ability to engage with world leaders = 1 service to this country = 1 a representative for all Americans =1 family man = 1 communication skills = 1 work experience = 2

I like the concept of having a business person as the president and I would have preferred someone else emerge as the dem nominee but it is what it is at this point.