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Jun 27, 2022 - 2:18pm
deadmonk5, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Entirely depends on what you value and who you like to be around - cultural fit is equally / if not more important than how wealthy an area is. 

p.s. It's not NY that place is a fucking cesspool

Jun 27, 2022 - 2:25pm
CiaronSmith, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Safe

Inclusive

High-End

More focus on educated individuals than celebrities, ideally.

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Jun 27, 2022 - 2:30pm
deadmonk5, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The first places that come to mind are mores so "tier 2" cities based on that list, specifically ones that have a bit more money in them. Ex. Twin Cities, Boston, Philly, DC, Charlotte. 

Just my two cents, though

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Jun 28, 2022 - 3:53pm
thebrofessor, what's your opinion? Comment below:

safe, high end, educational focus is easy - I'd imagine you can find this in switzerland, france, UK, germany, and the nordic regions, possibly australia and NZ

inclusive? one look at their demographics will tell you they don't like immigration (or like if they have a large % as in switzerland, still massive discrimination, worse than USA per people I know that've lived there)

what you're describing is utopia, which will never exist. if you listed your priorities in order, then I'd suggest somewhere like monaco.

but if you're talking USA, for all of the bad press the south gets, the cities are very inclusive. it'd be a rare week where I don't run into someone of south asian, east asian, african, middle eastern, european, central american, and african american descent, it's safe, not focused on celebs (bc I'm not in LA, NY, Miami), but it's not high end. celebs like high end, which is where I'm getting tripped up

you also haven't said anything about climate. personally, I'd imagine certain suburbs of boston check all of those boxes except maybe the high end one, but if you don't want an 8 month winter, that's a hard pass

Jun 28, 2022 - 3:55pm
Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎, what's your opinion? Comment below:
CiaronSmith

Safe

Inclusive

High-End

More focus on educated individuals than celebrities, ideally.

Orange County, CA

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jun 27, 2022 - 2:28pm
kodi, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Scottsdale

Denver

Boise

Seattle

Southern California, i.e. San Diego

Lake Tahoe

LA can be nice if you find a nice spot and you WFH

Jun 27, 2022 - 5:48pm
Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎, what's your opinion? Comment below:

East Village NYC

Beachouse in SoCal

Beachouse in Carolinas

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 28, 2022 - 3:24pm
NewIndustryHorizon, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Me too. Lived there for years. I never thought Philly was special besides being very affordable vs NYC at the time. Lived in a decent area but crime was sporadic too. Few murders (less than a mile perimeter from where I lived, I can think of at least 2 while I was living there) near where I used to live and I wasn't in a "bad part" of town.

Jun 28, 2022 - 10:35am
Invalid_CREdentials, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Not surprised to see Miami didn't make anyone's list here, but curious: where would it fall on your lists? T2? Absolutely last place? Somewhere in between?

Don't @ me

Jul 3, 2022 - 7:58pm
AnonymousGoon, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I don't think I could do Miami personally. I don't like the flashy / occasionally dishonest culture and couldn't handle the summer heat. Also the traffic combined with lack of public transit (i.e. traffic isn't as a big of a deal to me in NYC/Chicago since you can take trains) is something that would frustrate me

Jul 5, 2022 - 8:24am
Invalid_CREdentials, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Flashy for sure. Every person you see wearing Gucci probably paid for it with credit they can pay back. Public transit does suck for most areas. Some areas it's not too bad though. I think "existent but inadequate" is an accurate way to think about it. 

Summer heat isn't that bad though. Don't get me wrong, it's hot and humid, but talking to people in NYC hitting 95 degrees when we haven't been over 90 yet makes this seem more bearable. Summer is just a lot longer here, and nights don't cool down at all. It's tropical. Winters are the benefit that makes it all worth it.

Don't @ me

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Jun 28, 2022 - 10:55am
CiaronSmith, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Most people I ask at work say this.

For education-level, safety, quality of schools, and cost of living relative to comparable suburbs across the country.

Jun 28, 2022 - 11:00am
k1k10, what's your opinion? Comment below:

being born and raised here, can confirm all of this. i've never met an adult without a degree, 90%+ of my graduating class went to college with the majority going to T50 institutions, never worried about crime. 

Jun 30, 2022 - 10:30am
Pierogi Equities, what's your opinion? Comment below:

It'd be even better if WMATA actually operated a functional transit system, and if there were more lines (e.g., down Columbia Pike, the Purple Line connecting Bethesda to Tysons, etc.), but compared to other large US cities that have even less transit, it could obviously be worse.

Quant (ˈkwänt) n: An expert, someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing.

Jun 28, 2022 - 2:16pm
Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎, what's your opinion? Comment below:
k1k10

DC suburbs

I used to live on the Dunn Loring stop on the Orange line in VA. It was ok, but I like NYC or SoCal better. I highly disliked the fact that political talk was an acceptable conversation starter for most people at the bar (not me though).

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 28, 2022 - 5:02pm
k1k10, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Dunn Loring is alright. I was more referencing places like Bethesda, McLean, etc. Regarding political talk at the bar, yeah, thats just kind of how we get down here. Politics and gov't are a way of life, but that doesn't mean you need to make it a contentious topic of conversation.  

Jun 30, 2022 - 9:40am
Brio, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Whats annapolis or arlington like

Jun 30, 2022 - 10:14am
k1k10, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Annapolis is vastly different from Arlington, would not call it a suburb of DC. It's a nice, but small town about an hour north of DC. Arlington is a super cool spot. Best public school system in VA, basically no crime, urban planning is excellent in that its easy to get around in a variety of ways, lots of amenities and parks, tons of interesting employers(Amazon, DARPA, Boeing, etc). The one caveat to all of this is that it is fairly expensive to buy a house. Even 70 year old 3 bedroom houses are going for 1 million+. Renting is feasible in the more urban areas of Arlington and a lot of people do. If I was able to choose any place on earth to raise my kids, it would probably be Arlington.  If you have any other questions feel free to ask!

Jun 30, 2022 - 10:26am
Pierogi Equities, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Annapolis is nice for a day date spot or to visit, pretty boring otherwise. The Naval Academy is worth checking out.

Quant (ˈkwänt) n: An expert, someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing.

Jun 28, 2022 - 2:10pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:

USA is a fail. It's rife with ratchet people because they'll of their ghetto twerk culture with loud low-iq rap music.

It's inescapable and in your face. All we see is dreadlocked people speaking grammatically incorrect English.

Who wants USA ?

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Jun 28, 2022 - 2:14pm
Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎, what's your opinion? Comment below:
papertiger

USA is a fail. It's rife with ratchet people because they'll of their ghetto twerk culture with loud low-iq rap music.

It's inescapable and in your face. All we see is dreadlocked people speaking grammatically incorrect English.

Who wants USA ?

Where do you live?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 28, 2022 - 3:34pm
Real Estate Fridays, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Somewhere in Florida, but not South Florida or Orlando. Somewhere with proximity to an amazing golf course and even better beaches.

Jun 28, 2022 - 7:18pm
PrivateTechquity 🚀GME🚀, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The Gulf Coast is basically what you're describing. 

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Jun 28, 2022 - 4:59pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I've never seen a particular group of people I vehemently dislike in Silicon Valley as their tribe has not attained the skillset that is needed to be leading lights and beacons of industry in such a high skill workplace so I'm going to stick with Mountain View, Atherton, Sunnyvale, and Los Altos/Milpitas/Stanford area.


Places requiring cerebral capacity tend to keep the declasse out. 

Jun 30, 2022 - 10:53am
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Ladd

Those places might be relatively safe and wealthy but are extremely, extremely boring.

I grew up in the bay. Best childhood. Hottest girls, rich international crowd, liberal enviro, beautiful surroundings. 

Jun 30, 2022 - 1:59pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Ladd

I'm sorry but if you think the bay has the hottest girls then you clearly haven't travelled much. The girls here are the worst I have ever seen and I've been around. Also SF and Oakland are both hell-holes due to liberal policies and ideologies so not sure what you mean there. The surroundings are beautiful if you take a car to Santa Cruz, Monterey, Carmel, Napa, Marin, Half-moon bay but the Silicon Valley itself is bland, depressing, cookie-cutter suburbia. 

 

SF and Oakland are hellholes but that's north bay. I'm from San Jo.

I didn't mean hot necessarily. I just meant fast culture. I love my girls in G-strings, thongs, and vulgarily dressed. Beats Texan bible belt girls any day.

Jul 2, 2022 - 3:35pm
b3h3lit, what's your opinion? Comment below:

As another Bay Area native.. you aren't very well traveled even within your immediate vicinity. Oakland is east bay. No one considers SF as part of any of the North/South/East Bay or Peninsula, SF is just SF. North Bay is Marin/Solona/Sonoma/Napa counties. And no; Bay Area girls are not the hottest... in one night out in Vegas/LA/NYC, any major tourist city in Mexico (Tulum, PV, etc) or Europe you'll see more attractive women then you'll see out in the Bay in a month. That is unless your type is hoodrats from Oakland or ESJ.

Jul 2, 2022 - 4:42pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:
b3h3lit

As another Bay Area native.. you aren't very well traveled even within your immediate vicinity. Oakland is east bay. No one considers SF as part of any of the North/South/East Bay or Peninsula, SF is just SF. North Bay is Marin/Solona/Sonoma/Napa counties. And no; Bay Area girls are not the hottest... in one night out in Vegas/LA/NYC, any major tourist city in Mexico (Tulum, PV, etc) or Europe you'll see more attractive women then you'll see out in the Bay in a month. That is unless your type is hoodrats from Oakland or ESJ.

I'm sorry to tell you this but I have no literacy about SF or anything northwards of San Jose. We don't really bother with SF or anything beyond the Dumbarton bridge.

Cupertino/Mountain View/Los Gatos/Milpitas is what I stick to. It keeps the declasse out due to the requirements for skilled labor. 

As for the girls, beauty is the eyes of the beholder. 

The Bay is unique because it attracts skilled workers and financially capable people who are generally sophisticated from all over the world. These people tend to be economically socially mobile upward in their own nations and are part of the technocratic global upper echelon.

Such people tend to demonstrate liberal culture. Easy going, deviant from orthodoxy, et cetera. 

I've seen the hottest Indian girls, Middle-Eastern females, Orientals and European European (those who are first gen Americans) all mix and socially get along in the SV. 

What was it ? 05-06 ? Girls in San Jo were rocking booty shorts and thongs and were losing virginity after prom night. In 2022 Texas we've still got these prude girls who go to Church every day.

Jun 29, 2022 - 11:43pm
iridescent007, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Orange County.

I also heard Alabama is pretty nice Irvington, NJ is pretty nice year round. Make sure you check it out in person at a 3am night.  

Jun 30, 2022 - 12:28am
TryTheDip, what's your opinion? Comment below:

This so heavily depends on what nice means… I'll probably never leave NYC unless going international, but I'll second the callouts for the DC suburbs (I'm partial to NOVA in particular) - they're wealthy, educated, safe, clean, diverse, accessible, fantastic schools, close to a major city, multiple airports… if you want upscale suburban life it's pretty hard to beat

Jun 30, 2022 - 7:29am
niubao88, what's your opinion? Comment below:

That's a super broad question, but I'll toss out an unconventional take 

If job location is not an issue/can work remotely then Hawaii:

--Cheaper than Miami, Cali, NY, etc (adjusting for the fact that accommodations skew on the higher end in HI since it's tourist oriented)

--Nicest year round weather (65-85 degrees year round)

--Some of the nicest beaches/surf spots/golf courses in the world (especially considering close competitors like Cancun, Dominican Republic, etc. are located in pretty dangerous places whereas Hawaii is still within the cultural and legal boundaries of the US)

--Natural vibes being surrounded by mountains and beaches rather than being stuck in a depressing concrete jungle 

Jun 30, 2022 - 9:47am
Gashby, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Socal easy win. I work the Northeast market 6-3. I am out of the office at 3 and can go surf or ride motorcycles the rest of the day. I am 1 hour from San Diego, 1 hour from LA. The food is amazing, the girls are amazing, the car culture is amazing, beach vibes are amazing, weather amazing. Make sure you have a tax haven elsewhere as these California taxes are amazing as well.....

Jul 2, 2022 - 10:49pm
racist wharton chad, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Personally I'd live somewhere flashy in the west coast like Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Hidden/Beverly Hills and the likes (the weather is a bonus too), but each to their own.

Edit: I haven't considered schools in this, because I ship my kids off to boarding school in England.

Jul 4, 2022 - 7:03am
Peg Leg, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Another thing to consider is hobbies. Love DC, but I'm a huge skier and sailor. While annapolis checks the sailing box, the Chesapeake is murky and there really isn't anywhere interesting to sail to near there. It's not like going to Martha's Vineyard etc. Also too far to do a bunch of weekends in Vermont for skiing. 

Jul 6, 2022 - 10:53am
undergradstoodent, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Just got into sailing and a big skier. I think Boston is the best place to work for both. Alot of my sailing friends live in Marblehead to sail and the mountains are within 3hrs to great mountains

Jul 4, 2022 - 7:16pm
whereisthealpha, what's your opinion? Comment below:

People really sleep on Boston. It is a huge financial hub with many big PE, VC, and AM companies based here or who have a large presence/satellite office. (Bain, fidelity, Wellington, MFS, TA, Harbourvest, THL, State Street Global Advisors, Battery ventures etc) Best hospitals and universities in the country. Innovation hub especially in the areas of robotics and biotech. Highly educated population and education is very valued here. Best sports teams. Quite liberal, but not to the point of societal deficiency. Liberal senators and mayor, moderate Republican governor who is actually great and ranked best governor in the country. Young crowd so there is plenty to do, maybe not NYC or LA level but you can have a good time. For those with kids, there is great schools and it is very safe relative to other cities with large populations. The local people aren't as friendly or open as other places but there are plenty of transplants due to the universities here. The state of Massachusetts is highly ranked in any meaningful category as well.

Aug 6, 2022 - 10:10pm
Pescepescetarian, what's your opinion? Comment below:
bawstin

As long as you don't see these signs, you're in a great neighborhood without taxes suffocating you!

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This shit is like everywhere in Cambridge. Where can I go to find ton of intellectuals without crazy lefties or bunch of close-minded Puritans.

Aug 8, 2022 - 8:56pm
bawstin, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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Aug 8, 2022 - 6:01pm
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