One space or two spaces after a period? Thoughts?
As the subject line asks.
The senior guys at my firm told me they have never used a single space after a period.
I have never ever been taught to use two spaces after a period.
After googling this, I find conflicting arguments everywhere.
So someone tell me, in banking, is it proper to use one space or two after a period?
Thanks for your time.
I heard and use two. Also seen MDs do this as well.
It's one. Anyone who says otherwise is mentally deficient.
I've got 3 Columbia Business School Grads here who say its 2 spaces.
I feel like adding an extra space after a period is going to be something that is a pain in the ass to get used to.
I always use two also. As such.
The guy paying your salary is always right.
Exactly. Though as many posters are saying, the modern convention is one period.
IP - I don't like your Midwestern sensibilities, frugality, logical way of thinking, or generally pleasant demeanor, but I think you may have solved the mystery of this thread. Eine Banane für you.
.
Lol... oh they'll know... got a markup back last week where a footnote on one of the appendix pages had an addtional space circled with shorthand to delete. A lot of banks may very, but I know that with my group we only use one space on footnotes, and we end every line with a period. However, in proper syntax you definitely use 2 spaces after a period. This has been taught since elementary school...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing
The two spaces are a relic from the typewriter and all published material now use single spacing after full stops. This applies to the World Wide Web as well.
Haha beat me to it, I was gonna say this.
Also, to the OP, why not tell your MD that this is the convention and why it was changed. Tell him that you are right, and he is wrong. (And have a cocky smirk while you do it...)
Psh, just print out the wiki page, walk into his office, slam it on his desk, say "one space" and walk out. That's what a real BSD would do.
one space
One space after a period.
The two space thing comes from back in the day with typewriters, where the following capital letter would be too large and sometimes overlap with the letter preceding. Obviously that is no longer a problem nowadays.
2 always has been. Learned this is in computer class in middle school
2, dos, zwei
Comeon guys dont fight, lets compromise and find some middle ground, let`s start using one and a half spaces. Starting tomorrow, I am expecting all the sell-side reports I get to have 1.5 spaces after periods.
With all seriousness. It is ONE space.
Two spaces after a period is a relic of monospaced fonts on typewriters. Modern typographers agree that one space is correct, sufficient, and appropriate.
Slate did an entire article on this, which contains the following paragraph:
Argument over, 1 space unless you're typing on a typewriter. /thread
one space, end of story. anybody who says different is straight up wrong.
if you don't believe me go to NYTimes.com and check how many spaces they use. it is one space
(if you think it is two spaces, that is likely because you were taught to type on a typewrite or learned how to type from someone who learned on a typewriter. )
I'm used to one space. My MD wants double. Double it is
.
2
did you get the memo? we always double space after a period. and, we're using the new cover sheets for the TPS reports, mmkay?
Two spaces for me always. I have yet to have anyone comment to make it one space. We also don't put periods at the end of bullet points. And we frequently leave out hyphens.
It used to be 2 spaces, but apparently a lot of TEACHERS have been making the move to 1 space. It's personal preference, and the professor who told me to use one said "it was better for the environment". I guess if everybody uses one space, it adds up...
Anyways, the real reason is because people were taught double spacing after a period when using typewriters because they're monospaced. CMS and MLA both say one space.
When it comes down to it, if your MD says to put 2 spaces after a period, why the fuck are you questioning him/her? Just say, "yes sir, may I please have another." If your MD wants to know what you want another of, you say "whatever you want."
Always 1.
1, also it is much easier to get rid of accidental 2 spaces after periods in a 1-space paper. Ctrl-R " " to " ". Boom done. Good luck doing that vice-verse w/o wildcats.
Done.
not sure if srs
So those sentences that already have ".(space)(space)" will be changed to ".(space)(space)(space)"
One space. Anything more is redundant in the modern word-processing world. Two disrupts readability in my opinion anyway. I learned to write with two, discovered the rule for one later, and after switching, it looks and feels more intuitive.
Haha, best advice I think that can be given on this board: "just don't fuck up"
Read something your bank has already created and do what they did last time. This generally holds true for any formatting question, until the senior person wants it changed in which case they will say "do it x way, we always have done it x way." Even though you did it y way because it was done y way before.
sometimes i feel really adventurous and add THREE SPACES. see?
I've always used one... it's easier and is more business-oriented in my opinion. It is indeed gramatically "correct" to use two spaces, but I really don't think that finance gives a damn what English majors think is right.
This reminds me of the classic comma argument, i.e. which of the following is right: 1. One, two and three 2. One, two, and three
An English major would choose #2 time and time again, but in business it is written as #1 a majority of the time. In banking, I would say that both #1 and 1 space after a period is practiced more often.
No, the Oxford comma is an entirely different matter. The spacing thing is a matter of preference for modern or arcane formatting. The other is a matter of grammatical clarity. There's a big difference between "I am thankful to my parents, Meryl Streep and God" and "I am thankful to my parents, Meryl Streep, and God."
This is not the same thing as the Oxford comma at all. Two spaces is a formatting relic, not a grammar issue. The Oxford comma is a grammar issue.
Here's a classic example that illustrates why the Oxford comma is the right way of doing things:
"Our firm specializes in capital raising, divestitures, and mergers and acquisitions." vs. "Our firm specializes in capital raising, divestitures and mergers and acquisitions."
The latter makes you look like an idiot.
I've always been taught to use 2 and I always will until told otherwise.
I'm telling you otherwise :)
Seriously though, you are doing it wrong. It is an issue that can be resolved through a simple Google search, so I won't bother to justify my argument outside of what has already been posted above.
I meant by one of my superiors.
After much web searching, I'm gonna try and start using one space behind periods. May be a hard habit to break!
Whatever your boss says. It was also accepted practice at the bank I worked at to not use the Harvard/Oxford comma when listing something (e.g., apples, oranges and bananas vs apples, oranges, and bananas). Stupid, but it was just the rule and we all followed along.
absolutely 2 spaces
absolutely 2 spaces
Apparently two posts as well.
I actually had this conversation with a friend who writes for the school paper. She noticed that I always use two spaces and said that it was weird. She said that in professional writing you are told to use one space, but MLA says two spaces. Apparently nobody cares about MLA after you get out of college so who knows which is correct. I would just follow whatever seems to be most common in your office with the higher-ups.
One space.
use 1 for school purposes and 2 for business/job related emails
Really?
I don't think I've ever met anyone who used one space.
Before this thread I did not even know that you could use two spaces. I thought OP was trolling initially lol.
Voluptatem blanditiis fugit commodi quaerat aperiam doloribus. Voluptatum sunt autem officia voluptas molestias consequuntur. Laborum eum amet voluptatem ut mollitia deleniti ad.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...
Eum natus eveniet deserunt cupiditate voluptatum culpa dolores. Repudiandae eum consequatur ad eius necessitatibus. Eius autem et rerum beatae quis aspernatur aliquid ut. Porro consequatur illum quisquam. Sit velit officia quia dolore debitis qui aut. Culpa et molestiae aut voluptatem. Aut id delectus ducimus corrupti quas magni voluptatem suscipit.
Ipsa accusamus tempore quae laboriosam exercitationem. Dolore quidem qui eligendi non ea. Itaque nihil consequatur qui asperiores. Illo quisquam animi eos molestias qui ducimus. Natus libero est expedita mollitia ullam.
Aliquid ut accusantium accusamus et. Cum magnam omnis eos in ab. Et ea esse aliquam occaecati. Sit eos aperiam odio est porro. Eos nisi eum cupiditate id sit. Quod ut ea nemo dolor nisi. Corporis assumenda et veniam sequi quia.
Ullam ipsum eaque aliquam. Magni sint inventore vitae animi sed facilis. Asperiores quo alias adipisci aut nisi. Est laudantium rem consequuntur omnis molestias. Soluta provident nihil minus mollitia.
Optio voluptate veritatis odio aliquid dolorem non dolor voluptatem. Aliquam minus perspiciatis quae voluptatem illo molestias et. Laboriosam sed sit cum necessitatibus aperiam eos voluptate. Adipisci fugiat qui in cumque sint et dolorem laudantium. Accusamus reprehenderit quos sequi. Nobis suscipit ad itaque quam alias facilis accusantium. Dolores et accusantium eaque qui.
Accusantium ipsam sit dignissimos aut voluptatibus officiis. Quo sit unde veritatis quos necessitatibus soluta veniam nisi. Voluptas non ea et. Sit consequatur dicta sed. Nisi sequi mollitia vel dignissimos quaerat ad.
Autem fugit velit dolores esse ratione cum. Commodi velit doloremque deserunt ea sit. Error maiores et vero quia totam consequuntur. Corporis qui sit et enim dolor. Consectetur voluptas est rem amet.
Eos quia accusantium nulla ut reiciendis nobis dolore. Qui atque sint cupiditate atque. Voluptas commodi iure corrupti praesentium voluptatem. Reprehenderit placeat accusantium quas in mollitia eum. Sit facilis aut facere sint. Explicabo sint consequuntur nihil ab et omnis veritatis.