Porsche 911 Turbo
Does anyone 30 buy a Porsche?
I only see older people in them (NYC).. but see younger people in Bentleys, Maseratis, etc.... Would like to buy one in my later 20s..
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Not worth it imo. My friend has a 4s cabrio (not the same, but still) and it's nothing but a money sink. Everytime something goes wrong every little repair is inflated because they see the car and figure you won't give a fuck. And all that for what? Pretty sure he drives it like 1k miles a year. To be fair though, I'm not singling out that particular car but more just making a point against expensive cars in general (>~80k). There's a million ways to swing your cock if that's what gets you off, the car route is one of the dumber ways imho. Go on a vacation or some shit.
OP...You'll have to spend a ton of dough to get a 991 or 997 Turbo, but a 996 ('99-05') shouldn't set you back more than ~$30k. Porsche made a ton of 996 Turbos and they have come down in value significantly over the past few years. They're plenty fast, won't attract as much attention as a 991 or 997, and all it takes is a bit of tuning work (which costs a few grand at most) to boost them up to ridiculous power levels (600+hp).
First off - Who cares what age you see other people driving them. If you like it, get it.
Second - Since you bring up NYC, cars like that are about 90% useless as they will never even get out of first gear here unless you take it to the track or drive outside of the NYC metro area.
Third - if you've never driven a stupid fast car before, you should start off with something a bit calmer. Even with all the electronic assists, a car like that isn't for the untrained.
i know a few early-30s who drive them. don't think I've seen 20-somethings although I'm sure they're out there...
You'll just get a load of attention from dudes honestly
I race and restore cars as a hobby and tbh I'm guilty of stopping strangers to check out their car all the time. It's true, having a nice car frequently only attracts attention from guys. Buy a car because it is fun, not because you care what people think.
If and when you have fuck you money, blowing it on cars is fine. When you're in your 20's it's one of the biggest wastes of money possible. Especially if you live in an east coast city where you're just not going to use it. Maybe if you live in LA where people, and by people I mean women, judge you on your car and it's near impossible to get laid driving an Accord but cars a just a pain in the ass and an unnecessary expense when you're young and living in the city.
I had a 911 but not turbo a few years ago (mid 20s). It was clearly a waste of money, but it was fun to drive and I didnt care about being responsible. I just wanted a cool car. Don't bother if you think its going to attract girls though... guys are way more interested.
Buy mid 80s SL hard top convertible. Not only are the cool, they are actually increasing in value.
For under 30's, there are very few people that I have seen with cars really over 50k. Those that I have seen are usually souped up mustangs, camaros, corvettes, or GT-Rs and R8s, that said, a 911 turbo is what? 150k?, far more expensive than most of the cars I mentioned.
I had a 997 (911) Cab S....if you're in NYC, forget it - it's a waste. Paying for a garage is not worth it here and you probably won't use it much. Also, like another guy said, repairs sucked ass. I always heard "oh Porsches are so reliable, they're the most durable exotic cars". If that's what's considered durable, then god forbid what happens with a Ferrari or something else. I had fun in the car, and that's what I got it for - simply to have fun in. Unlike other dickholes, I didn't care about what other people thought (I didn't get it to impress people). And as far as getting girls, sure, if you want golddiggers, but it still won't get near the attention you'd think. I also didn't like the feel of being in my early 20's with one, people constantly tried to size themselves up and I kind of got tired of pulling up and getting stared at.
Sold it and glad to be rid of it, but I'd reconsider sometime later in my life when I get more established and actually feel like I've really earned it.
If you think a Porsche is expensive to keep up, Ferrari's will blow your mind. A former partner of mine owned them and I forget the exact numbers but I think an oil change alone was $500 and there was a 15k mile (maybe 30k) maintenance where they basically took the engine apart that cost something like $10k. And that was just standard maintenance, not if something went wrong. They were fun as hell to drive but unless you have a ton of money to blow on it they're just not worth it.
Exactly.
Life's short. If you want one and can afford it, go for it. Before long you'll be married with 3 kids and driving a SUV or God forbid your wife's minivan to pick kids up from practice.
Just my opinion but if you need to have a car in your 20's and feel the need to have a nicer one, 3 series are great cars. Engineering is excellent, they're fun to drive and there will be no maintenance costs for years. Bump it up to an M if you really need speed and performance. It's still an unnecessary expense but BMW's and especially 3 series are just great automobiles.
I'll attest to this, fantastic cars. The used market on 335's is pretty robust and you can always go the route of a chip to add more horsepower if you want to.
If you are looking new, the 4 series replaced the 335 coupes and they want a pretty penny for those. The M's are getting crazy expensive nowadays, not that they ever weren't necessarily.
335's are really underrated cars in terms of how fast they are. For practical, non-track, driving, you're unlikely to need that much more power.
Anyone driven the Jaguar F type? That's more in line with the kind of money I'd drop on a car
how come this is on the front page? )
Jaguar F-Type is awesome to drive, great fun (I was able to test drive one at a racing event). considering price tag starts at 60k, this is probably the best value for the money you can currently get out of a really nice sports car. otherwise the bmw z4 is awesome (and maybe more affordable/fitting for people in their 20s)
If you can afford it and you actually like cars, then do it. Fuck what anyone else thinks about the car you drive.
Just as info, I subscribed to an email list from BringATrailer.com. You guys should check it out. All things cars, both vintage and newer, as long as it is of interest to some auto enthusiast somewhere. Just basically a website showing the interesting vehicles for sale accross the US (mostly US). Reading the comment sections has really helped me learn about vehicles, what to buy, what to avoid, what type of issues come with what cars, and how to find a good car at a good price. It's well worth the time to check it out.
As a car enthusiast if I had the coin to go out and splurge on a wonderful piece of machinery like that I would. You are young once. Soon there will be too many excuses in the way. And before you know it you are going to end up one of those old guys you see fart around in their Porsches barely reaching the speed limit.
If you want some fun, which is what it seems to me you want since you posted the "Burning out" thread, just buy a crotchrocket. It'll be easier to get in and out of the city and was more fun than the car for me.
Ducati 848 for the win (2nd bike- first should be a 250 or 500 cc)
-1/10 as expensive as a Porsche -Faster than a Porsche by most measures. -Can lane split in NYC traffic -No $600/mo parking space required
There is always that one guy that compares a car to a bike...
Also you should check out what kind of trailer hitch you can install on the Porsche. If it can't tow a Uhaul trailer, that makes moving a lot more expensive.
I'd also check the rating on the trailer hitch of the Ducati. That would be such a bitch to show up and UHaul and figure out you high end sports bike can't haul a trailer.
But I agree on the sports bike rec if someone's just looking for speed at a good price. And bikes are his plain old fun. Can't say I do sports bikes anymore but a laid back piece of American Iron is fun. I don't know if I'd want to have it full time in NYC though.
buy it if you are a car enthusiast, but if you just want a car for cool factor there other cars that are "cool" and cheaper. Porsches aren't good cars to leave around and not be driven.
One of the poster said it very well about having the proper driving experience prior to buying a stupid fast car. Porsches aren't your typical high power car and with the weight bias to the rear, it can easily spin out and not able to correct it through fast turns.
This is very true about knowing how to drive a high performance car. I grew up fixing and driving muscle cars (60's/70's era), did light amateur racing, have driven manual trucks and have owned motorcycles since I was 12 (dirt then street). I thought I knew how to drive a car like a Ferrari. First time my former partner let me drive one of his was on Ocean Drive in SoBe. I looked like the biggest tool because I was jerking the clutch so bad I couldn't even just make it stall (and when a high performance engine jerks it feels like you're going to blow the car apart). Then after I thought I learned how to drive it I almost popped it off the road because I slammed on the gas in second and the tail flew out like I was on ice.
Buddy of mine got a 998 911 Carrera as a present to himself after selling his startup, thing is great. Another friend has a GT3 which is even more ridiculous. Both were about 25/26 when they got them, so I haven't witnessed the age pattern you mentioned. Either way, if you like them and can afford one then get one. Who cares?
I badly want a non-turbo air cooled one from the 1980s.
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