Russia..and so it has begun
There goes my holidays in Europe this summer, unless this proves to be a short-lived conflict. Thoughts? Also curious to hear from @drumpfy
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nothing will happen. no european power has the balls to actually fight a war over this.
people dont really care about ukraine.
there was a massive war in afghanistan and iraq and most americans barely noticed.
You will barely be thinking about this in a month. 100%
I think people might be underestimating the ramifications - Putin's end goal of creating a present day Soviet Union isn't just isolated at Ukraine but a long series of dominos. Who will be next?
Belarus and Kazakhstan will be next. But looking at the state of their current leadership, they will probably just give in without a fight. Following nationwide protests, Belarus' president Lukashenko has recently figured out that he needs to be cooperating closely with Putin if he wants to avoid the footsteps of ex-Ukrainian president Yanukovich. Likewise, following protests in Kazakhstan earlier last month, president Tokayev, who drew support of the Russian military to quell the protests, is positioning himself as pro-Russia leader
From the US point of view, Ukraine is not what matters. Instead, its what happens after the Russians have consolidated control over Ukraine & turn to their next targets: Poland and the Baltics.
Russia sees these conquerings as defensive. Russians are attempting to plug the access point to their heartlands
Agree, is a rebalancing act. The two regions, to Ukraine and moving forward to further targets. The other targets are a bit more tricky, given their achieved status in the EU and NATO. This is in some sorts a further proxy (started years ago with first proxies in other regions, moving forward after testing waters and finding out muted reactions). In any event, war is not what you need coming out of a pandemy.
We need to go to work tomorrow?
The FTP branch in Kyiv said work from home tomorrow unless there are client meetings
Activision Blizzard gonna schedule a client meeting and show a demo of COD while there are amazing background sounds.
"There go my holidays in Europe" and "Next Targets: Poland and the Baltics". Jesus, everyone settle down. If you want to visit Europe it will be perfectly safe to do so. Putin will likely take over the separatist-held regions and perhaps a little more but not a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The West will retaliate at some point and a middle ground will be found. However impulsive people perceive Putin to be, he isn't stupid. He doesn't want to start invading a continent with 2 other nuclear powers (UK and France) and also piss off the US which has countless troops throughout Europe. He is sending a message and wants a buffer between continental Europe and mainland Russia. Will this be a bloody conflict that might escalate past rebel-held areas of Ukraine? Probably. Is this WW3? Absolutely not.
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How so? Because of explosions near Kyiv? On military targets? Even if you're invading a portion of a country, it makes strategic sense to take out as many military targets as possible across the entire nation. I mean, perhaps Putin will take over the whole of Ukraine as some stage. It just seems very unlikely as of now.
Love all these internet sleuths who claim to know what goes on between closed doors in Russia's government and the internal workings of the mind of the country's President. I wish I had one hundredth of a bitcoin for every internet post in the last 2 weeks claiming that Russia would not invade, that Western fears were overblown, that Biden was being hysterical.
The fact that your title is 'Consultant in Consulting' makes it even more hilarious.
No one is claiming that. We're making educated guesses based on the information available, historical precedents and logic. This is also a discussion forum for people to...discuss things! If we didn't share opinion on matters unless we were a world-renowned expert in that matter, everyone would be in silence.
this invasion was 100% logical (yes, easy to say in hindsight). Ukraine is one of the richest countries in certain resources and is sitting on a key piece of land from Russia’s defensive point of view. ”What consequences are there if I attack?” Putin asks. The answer is some fucking ”sanctions”. R u serious? Not saying this is sleepy joes fault or whatever, but the Western leaders could have been more strict to prevent this invasion from happening.
More strict? This could have easily been avoided if they compromised at least a little bit. Ukraine does not even meet the bare minimum qualifications to enter NATO anyway. Why are they still pretending they're going to let them in "at some point in the distant future" when clearly they won't? They're just using that as leverage to piss off the Russians.
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but what are some of the minimum qualifications Ukraine is lacking to enter NATO? Genuinely curious
Total insanity in commodities today. This is officially the end of global supply chains. Europeans are going to pay crazy prices for energy, Americans are going to see the highest food costs in ages.
I lean as well that Putin doesn't take all of Ukraine right away it would be a bitch for him to manage 44 million people who hate his guts.
In the end this is will be good for America as the “war style effort” will create new jobs and industries at home as supply chains become localized. But even that good is very sad result that the global way of solving problems is done for now.
If 44 million people hate him, then why something like 10 million left the country in the past 8 years and of the remaining ones, nobody is lifting a finger?
Incredibly unfortunate situation. Praying everyone stays safe. MS if you disagree.
my grandmother had to flee her home today at 4am when Russia invaded, glad you will get your bonus tho :)
Thank you. Praying for her. Hope she stays safe.
You are a fucking loser
shut the fuck up intern
1) What are their preferred pronouns?
2) Are they wearing masks and respecting social distancing?
Found the snowflake. No room for cucks on this forum, didn’t realize this was turning into Reddit Jesus thought I’d get a break from the retards here
I was being sarcastic mate...
Also Russia's military recruitment ads were not diverse at all and exhibited toxic masculinity. Seems unlikely they will succeed in taking Ukraine because of this
Currently studying abroad in Europe. Things are calm at the moment in terms of outside of the East. If you are spending time in Western Europe I think you'll be fine. Id be skeptical if you were planning to be in Budapest, Prague, Minsk or Warsaw...
Keep in mind I could come back to this comment in 4 months and the world is upside down.
Ok but for real if I was planning on going to vacation in Europe in a few months, what countries/cities should I be avoiding (besides Ukraine, obviously). Czechia? Austria? Poland? Denmark?
Denmark? Americans really do suck at geography...
Bro chill I know that Denmark is like 3 countries separated from Ukraine. It's just one of the countries I was planning on visiting which is why I threw it out
This is all so sad
Lolol did a Democrat fuck your girlfriend or something? Because they seem to be living rent-free in your head.
Russia invades Ukraine "BRRR GOD DAMN QUEER LIBERALS"
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Lol the last major “world police” operations by the United States were initiated by a Republican administration
What the fuck are you talking about? Lol
Idk about that
Not true. Obama did the surge in Afghanistan and restarted the Iraq war in 2016. I know because I was there and I had buddies get killed.
Only the u.s. responds to catastrophe by turning on itself. Strange nationalistic response
The US should just offer citizenship to any Russian soldier who defects, along with their entire family. I guarantee you their forces in Ukraine would collapse.
Maybe give green cards to top performing students and well educated professionals. Brain drain em.
I think you underestimate how Putin has controlled his narrative for so long in Russia, I'd wager most Russians don't see the USA as a place they'd want to move to. There isn't much love lost between the two countries.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/04/6-charts-on-how-russia…
Lol yeah most Russian soldiers probably don't want to uproot and move to the Drag Queen Empire
This is just devastating to see.
If you want to know the real reason this is happening, read this:
Clandestine on Twitter: "1) HOLY SHIT! I think I may be onto something about #Ukraine. Zelensky said the Russians are firing at “military installations”. How broad is that term? I am seeing speculation that could include US installed biolabs. At first I was like no way. Then I started digging. https://t.co/tm72HFAXNK" / Twitter (archive.fo)
Based Putin strikes again
I will bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new empire.
-Darth Putin (2022)
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