Your Malaysia Airlines Dissapearance Theory!
I'm gripped to this story. Any Lost fans here? Any Aviation enthusiasts?
What do you think happened to that plane?
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It almost certainly crashed into the Indian ocean. That said, it's coming down to the motivation behind diverting the plane. Its communication equipment was disabled shortly after takeoff and the transponder a brief while later. This means someone with a fair amount of technical knowledge - AKA a pilot or trained 3rd party - deliberately did such.
Given the incredibly confusing evidence presented thus far, I can't make any reasonable guess as to what happened. I'd say it was a terrorist plot but then we have to believe that these guys somehow failed altogether? My next theory would be a navigational system malfunction that forced the plane to turn around while unable to navigate to a landing zone - but then what about the disabled tracking equipment?
To be honest, this situation is so unusual that even some fringe theories make sense. People are saying that the pilot committed suicide, and others say that the DPRK did it. I find those theories plausible as any (though I don't necessarily believe them).
Bottom of the Indian Ocean
One of the pilots did it. That's for sure.
There was a waiver for an additional 1,000 kilos or pounds of additional "lithium-ion batteries" most likely what ever this stuff actually was was either extremely valuable, had military research, or both. It's actually not that hard to make an aircraft disappear from tracking. Radar systems have a minimum necessary height and disabling the transponders is not an extremely complicated process however I believe with large commercial passenger jets you would need a pass code or two in order to do it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the plane landed in the jungle somewhere, I believe there is something like 500 or 600 airstrips that can accommodate the landing length needed for a 777. The passengers are likely dead, killed upon landing. If it was actually a crash global imaging satellites would have picked up on a debris trail by now. The other plausible theory is it was an escape plan for that politician that was about to be convicted of all sorts of crimes and was likely going to be executed. The guy had hundreds of millions of dollars stashed in banks around the world. In that part of the world it wouldn't be hard to bribe enough people to make this happen.
I'm with you, Heister. This was way too elaborate and well executed for them to just have crashed in the middle of the Indian Ocean. The only other possibility I see is a Chinese / Malaysian cover up where they knew it was hijacked and had to shoot it down, then sending boats to immediately clean it up. That sounds difficult to cover up, though.
All of the theories around the politician, cargo, or engineers being on board are more than enough incentive for a group of people to elaborately plan a hijacking. The other 200 people are just collateral, especially in an area of the world where life isn't valued as highly.
If it was hijacked/stolen, my question is: how do you keep the passengers from getting SOME sort of message out? Surely the plane had wifi and everyone has a cell phone....
they don't have Wifi on Malay Air flights. Most parts of the world aren't fully equipped with cellular technology.
They are all on a tropical island stocked with polar bears and a mysterious bunker.
No way this thing crashed. It was deliberately diverted and either the cargo was stolen or it is going to be used as some type of bomb/terrorism.
I think what @"Redacted" said is correct. It probably started out that way, but later crashed in the ocean somewhere.
No way the United States can not find a plane that has actually landed.
This is not Oceanic 815.
I don't see this logic. Someone disconnected the tracking signal and continued to fly this plan. So it was the pilot or someone else skilled. If crashing the plan was the goal they would have done it right away or at least flew it into a building in a city or something. I mean what is the logic of flying this thing for 7 hours and then being like, fuck it, lets crash this bitch?
And while I want to agree with you that we should be able to find it, we didn't know about it flying off course for what, 3-4 days. And with Putin in Crimea we probably weren't really focused on a routine Malaysian flight.
IMO, this thing was hijacked. If this thing crashed I would/will be very surprised.
It all lies within the validity of those "satellite beeps" that shows its course into the Indian Ocean:
A) if it wasn't that plane it was coming from then it surely crashed around the area of last contact
B) if it was that plane it was coming from then it was taken somewhere and never crashed -if it was hijacked, they wouldn't have just crashed it without a reason into the ocean, they took it somewhere
The plane crashing and being hijacked don't have to be mutually exclusive. Remember, on 9/11 the passengers on flight 93 rushed the cockpit and ultimately that plane crashed prior to reaching its intended target. Granted, the passengers were aware that the plane was going to be crashed anyways in that situation.
Either way, if all of the info about elevation/course changes in addition to equipment tampering are correct, combined with what would likely become a highly volatile situation with 200+ panicked passengers on board, it's not a stretch to suppose that errors could have been made by whomever was flying the plane at that point.
Russia took it over and crashed in into the Indian Ocean to distract attention from their invasion of Ukraine.
And it totally worked, huh.
To everyone questioning the point of flying an extra few hours and not crashing the plane right away, assuming the intent was to crash the plane. Apparently the flight recorder (black box) only records the most recent 2-3 hours, so it would make sense to fly an extra 4-5 hours; this would ensure sure anything said in the cockpit that may have crucial evidence would be deleted.
Also, the Indian ocean is much larger and deeper than the bodies of water on the original route, so it would be much more difficult to find the plane if it crashed into the Indian ocean.
I also think the Malaysian government has handled this crisis terribly.
Will surely become a widely used case study in schools all over the world on how to NOT manage a crisis.
The Malaysian government are inept on a day to day basis, let alone when handling a crisis like this.
I'm not convinced by anyone that says it had to be someone skilled to turn off the navigation AND therefore they must be the culprit . If someone had a gun to the pilot or co-pilot's head then I imagine he'd do everything he was told to do.
What I think happened:
--Hijacking with the pilots and potentially a passenger in on it
What I would love to have happened in a fantasy world:
--The plane remains missing for the foreseeable future, people are baffled, no one understand what happened
--Suddenly, people from on board the flight are spotted throughout the world, going on with their lives. When questioned about the flight, they seemingly have no idea that there was a flight, as though they were never on board and never even lived their pre-flight lives
--Once the final passenger is spotted, the plane suddenly appears and lands in LAX
--The plane is empty except for one person
--I step off the plane and give a press conference with the world watching before tearing through the fabric of reality and exposing the deepest secrets of the universe.
This.
Check your voicemail. I think Spielberg just called.
P.S. I wonder how much longer will the search effort be going on if the plane is still not found. This could go down as one of the great aviation mysteries in history, like what happened to the flight 19 at Bermuda Triangle. Imagine 20 years from now Discovery channels doing paranormal witness special on the mystery of the vanishing Malaysia flight 370.
Also on a practical note, when would those onboard be classified as officially dead. This is important for insurance and a host of other legal purposes. Already China has urged life insurance companies to start paying out policies to the relatives.
P.S.S. Replying to another poster re Criss Angel. That guy is way overrated and is literally all smokes and mirrors. He looks great on (fake) TV with camera tricks and actors pretending to be random participants but when performing live he comes across as an amateur. Just check out the horrible reviews of his Cirque show at the Luxor. Criss Angel ain't no David Copperfield.
If the plane was shot down with missiles, there would be huge pieces of wreckage floating in the ocean.
I know this because in the 1980's the US navy shot down a civilian Iran Air Airbus A300 (Flight 655) because they mistook it for an F-16. After the plane was shot down, there were people and tons of debris floating in the ocean. And there were TWO surface to air missiles that were launched at it...
Also, the govt that luanched missiles at it would have said something by now.
Nope. Why would they do so?
A govt would have needed many people to be involved in shooting down a 777 and cleaning it up. It's illogical to assume that's what happened.
It's possible, not probable....at all.
Aliens.
Wormhole...also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge
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It's probably a stunt for some Criss Angel act. If anyone can make a plane disappear, it has got to be him.
Besides a debris trail, numerous media outlets have noted that a missile strike would have left a radiation signature that would be visible to radar or other imaging technology.
The thing that I am most curious about is the fact that WSJ reported that the plane carried on flying for 4 hours (based on the health-status pings that continue as the plane's engine is under power), yet the Malaysian transportation board basically calls them liars... why?
I believe that the plane was hijacked with the help by an internal party, and my best hope for the sake of the passengers is that it is elaborate piracy, and they are simply being held for ransom as the hijackers develop their plan. Unfortunately, I doubt that is realistic...
Why isn't there like an SOS that goes out with fighter jets and shit when the black box gets turned off? Why can the black box even be turned off?
The black box (which is actually orange, who knew?) has no communication with the ground during the flight. It's only used to find out what happened after the fact.
I think it was amazing that the guy had the skill to fly undetected after he shut off the communications system. According to the talking heads, the pilot flew 4-5 more hours after he was last picked up by satellite. A 777 is a big momma.
What I hope happened? -> They are filming Lost 2.0
What I think happened? -> Malaysian Airlines 370 is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean
Weren't there two passengers who boarded with stolen passports? I've been reading that the pilot has never shown any hint of "suspect" behavior but then again, those are sometimes the most dangerous.
My guess is the planed was landed in the Xinjiang province in China. The reason I say this is because on March 1st a terrorist group composed mainly of Muslim Uyghurs from the Xinjiang province callously killed 29 people and wounded 130 others in a train station attack. Exactly one week later a plane goes missing that contains 152 Chinese or 67% of the total passengers.
China has been awfully quite for a country that had the most passengers aboard the plane...
A couple of observations that I think have been overlooked:
1) As they flew west, the sun was coming up just as they would have stopped. This is important to support a landing in a remote area theory. And they would most likely land on a dry lakebed or paved road where fuel trucks / bad peoples could move in and move out quickly.
2) They could have landed and taken off again. This would support the high fuel consumption requirements of flying low and allow the plane to refuel.
3) Not sure about the plane actually making it to 45Kft. Radars can show altitudes that are off by several thousand feet, and if this plane did make it up to 45K, then the pilot should be in line for some kind of award because he's probably the first person to get a fully loaded plane up that high. The pilot could have easily depressurized the cabin at 30Kft and killed the passengers that way.
4) A crash would most likely set off the ELTs (unless the pilot disabled those too) and this plane would have been located fairly quickly.
Now, what happened?
I think this plane was stolen in order to kidnap someone onboard. The plane could have gone south and met a ship at a specific latitude / longitude and ditched, and offloaded the person they wanted. Everyone else would be killed. Or the plane could have gone North, landed in a remote area, and then offloaded the person that they wanted. Then everyone else would have been killed. The issue with the northern route is that hiding the plane would be difficult.
Sadly, I just can't fathom a scenario where a majority or all of the people onboard the plane are still alive.
I think authorities aren't releasing a lot of information because this plane didn't crash and it is either potentially being used for terrorism or there is something else shady going on. The flight sim probably has the path outlined.
Hijacked (by pilot), sitting in a hangar somewhere. Passengers/crew dead. Terrorists holding it for a future attack on wherever?
Or, a Murphy's Law sequence of technical failures took place and it splashed into part of the ocean no one has searched.
I thought the search was very extensive, but I guess there is a chance.
Not a big fan of conspiracy theory of all sorts, but I'd like to see this tragedy solved and the families can then go on with their lives. It is much more painful for them to live through the uncertainties.
My only theory is this was a pure human error and the plane ended up crashed in the middle of nowhere, most likely being an ocean.
Let's ask the Malaysian witch doctors, they know.
Somebody call Mulder and Scully.
It all began with Snowden's escape to Russia, who now holds info on the US hedging against the US' ability to retaliate seriously on actions taken in Crimea. The Malaysia plane is a diversion to draw attention away from Russia as much as possible. Once Crimea gets resolved, plane will show up again.
Ive got the plane in my backyard underneath a few blankets....shhhhh
Wouldn't you need to go like nose first or some shit into the ocean in order to kill everyone? They have flotation devices and shit. They could crash land on the belly, right? If they died in the ocean, somebody had to be trying to kill them, right?
After being hijacked, Boeing 767 runs out of fuel and the (original) pilot is forced to crash-land on a beach. The crash was famously caught on camera by tourists, but highlighted the fact that even in a controlled landing, there will be major loss of life. 125 of the 175 aboard died and the other 50 were seriously injured...and this was a controlled landing, at a relatively slow speed, a few hundred yards from shore.
So, no...you don't have to nose dive to kill everyone...especially if you're far from shore.
Most fatalities from Ethiopian 961 were due to passengers inflating their life vests prior to getting out of the plane. The plane flipped on landing after the left engine hit a coral reef, and the passengers with inflated vests couldn't swim underwater to escape so they drowned. That was next to a beach (smooth water) and if it weren't for the coral reef and people panicking, far less people would've died.
However, ditching smoothly in the open ocean is next to impossible as any type of wave will cause a huge issue when you're coming in at 150mph...anyone who has gone over 50mph in a speedboat before knows how hard waves feel at that rate.
The biggest thing to me were the erratic changes in course after the transponder was switched off. Some have a theory that there was a catastrophic fire and the pilot immediate set a course for Langkawi airport, which is long enough to accommodate a 777 and has the easiest emergency approach (over water) in the area. However, I'm guessing they would've found wreckage if they were heading for this airport and ditched before making it there. Additionally, radar suggests he switched course two more times after passing Langkawi when he headed northwest for the Andaman Islands.
This is a really interesting (yet far fetched) theory I came across yesterday: http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlin…
To summarize, there was a Singapore Airlines flight heading from Singapore to Barcelona about 15 miles ahead of MH370 on the exact same NW course that MH370 allegedly switched to after passing Langkawi airport. As MH370 had no transponder and no TCAS switched on, the SA flight couldn't have known they were there, and MH370 could have flown over the busy India, Pakistan, etc. airspace undetected (as two 777 in close proximity would only appear as one 777 on radar if one of them didn't have its transponder on).
Obviously this is a really far fetched theory, so I'm posting this at the risk of sounding like a tin foil hat wearing nut job. However, given a 777 has been missing for over 10 days now with no sign of wreckage (despite the average ocean depth in the area being only about a 100 feet deeper than the length of the aircraft), I'll listen to any theory at this point.
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