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Very familar with the scene in Boston. Would say (rough-tiering for all of these). The largest names in the city are Advent, Bain, and TA. Then there's a plethora of UMM's that are mixed-bags including Berkshire, Great Hill, THL, Summit, Parthenon, Audax, PSG. After that there is a very large group of MM firms that I will not bother going down the list for. Happy to answer more specific questions. Will note some of the firms in Boston are old and have struggled to raise capital in the past 5 years, would probably not join those firms if your currently an analyst in IB.

 

Could you elaborate more on the mixed bag UMMs? Specifically curious to know more about Berkshire and THL.

Obviously there’s the element of fund size, but I’m curious if you were recruiting for associate role, how you would siphon through which seats would be most desirable to you based on what you know / see. 

 
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Have friends at the VP level there so might not be fully reflective of junior experience. Hours are reasonable, people are solid, comp is in-line with fund size and location , and fundraising has been doing well. They have a lot of mid-levels and hire strongly from MBAs who weren't at the firm as associates, so not the greatest spot for promotions. Associates are siloed into verticals so even though the latest fund is ~$7bn your actual investing experience is closer to a much smaller fund, which leads to better WLB but also fewer deal reps and harder to lateral even if you were at a good-sized fund. Only put them in mixed-bag because of the associate experience, think it's a phenomenal spot at the mid-level. Audax (and to a lesser extent PSG) is kind of the opposite, terrible culture and WLB but great deal experience by the nature of how many add-ons they do and their lack of siloing at the associate level. I am not going to comment on THL or Berkshire as the earlier person asked as those firms have been more heavily covered on WSO and the question is too vague.

 

FWIW, I understand that Baupost dabbles in privates / PE from time to time. May be a good idea to check them out. That said, there may be a more interesting public markets Boston scene if that’s up your alley. Whale Rock. Harvard Management. Jon Jacobson, other names problaly too. It’s like a hub of old school / classic value investing if that’s of interest. 


Good luck 

 

Sweaty even relative to PE, terrible culture, and most importantly horrible people to work with. Audax is not worth it for anyone who has any interest in anything more than their job. There are so many solid UMM shops, not sure why you'd willingly choose to go to a place that is known for being toxic. It is very possible for a firm to be sweaty and not toxic (Thoma, in my opinion, is a good example of this), but working very long hours with terrible people is not worth it for medicore pay (relative to UMM PE). Good place to be a LP though. 

 

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