Buyside in London with nice WLB and pay
Hi,
Nearing the end of my A2 year in London and starting to look for exits.
I genuinely like digital infra but I've heard this is a life of pain - is this true? Heard that hours can be worse especially at large cap MFs.
Similarly, I've heard of good WLB places but then assoc 1 pay is like 70-80k base (not bad but significant discount to IB assoc).
So I was wondering - what are some good places with both WLB and pay in London? Any intel is appreciated. By WLB I don't mean 9 to 5, but rather no work on weekends or Friday nights lol
Based on the most helpful WSO content, finding a buyside role in London that balances both work-life balance (WLB) and competitive pay can be challenging, but there are some insights to guide you:
Digital Infrastructure:
While digital infrastructure is an exciting and growing sector, it is often associated with demanding hours, especially at large-cap mega funds (MFs). The competitive nature of these funds and the deal intensity can lead to worse hours compared to other sectors.
Smaller PE Shops and Family Offices:
Smaller, local private equity (PE) shops or family offices are often highlighted as better options for WLB. These firms typically have less competitive processes and slower deal timelines, which can result in more predictable hours. However, compensation might not match the levels of large-cap funds or IB associate roles.
Life Companies (LifeCos):
LifeCos are known for offering a solid balance between reasonable hours and good pay. They often provide NY/SF-level salaries in cities with lower costs of living, but even in London, they are recognized for valuing employees' lives outside of work.
Long-Only Asset Managers:
Firms like Capital Group and Wellington are often mentioned as having a more sustainable work culture. While they may not offer the same exit opportunities as PE, they provide a better balance and competitive pay.
Sovereign Wealth Funds and Pension Funds:
These institutions, such as Man GLG or Polar Capital, are known for being more long-term oriented and offering a better WLB compared to hedge funds or large-cap PE firms. They also provide exposure to interesting asset classes and smaller, decentralized teams.
Mid-Market PE Firms:
Mid-market PE firms can sometimes strike a balance between WLB and pay. However, the culture and hours can vary significantly depending on the partners and their backgrounds. Firms with partners who prioritize a balanced lifestyle may offer better hours.
Accenture Strategy and Similar Consulting Firms:
While not strictly buyside, firms like Accenture Strategy are noted for their solid WLB (50-70 hours per week) and interesting work. They may not lead to PE exits but can be a good option for those prioritizing lifestyle.
Key Considerations:
If you're looking for a balance, consider targeting smaller funds, family offices, or long-only asset managers while being prepared for a potential pay trade-off compared to IB associate roles.
Sources: Best lifestyle PE firms in terms of hours work, comp/size doesn't matter, David and Goliath: The Boutique and The Bulge Bracket, LifeCo Positions on the Equity Side, Private Equity shops with the best work/life balance, Q&A: Equity Analyst at a Sovereign Wealth/Pension Fund
Let me know when you find out, been 5 years looking
Mubadala or GIC
What’s the base / bonus like? I guess downside is no carry?
Cannot comment on Mubadala but GIC are very sharp, work like dogs and are paid commensurately.
My firm pays £100k base for Associates in Corp Dev. 9-6 most of the time.
You should look into these roles if you’re open to it.
How generous - can't even afford living on your own in Z1/Z2 on that base
Thanks - what is the bonus and progression like?
really not sure, but my director is in 2 member clubs so I assume relatively decent progression. Maybe £130k for Senior Asso and £150-200k base for director?
Lansdowne, Egerton
Associate 3 in Investor Relations at a US Credit Fund - made £245k last year working 9-6
How did you get into it and what is progression like?
2 years at US BB doing IBD before. Expect to get VP promote this year
Will be a decent sized shop i.e. Ares.
Can you talk on whether you are churning out PPMs, answering Q&A etc or doing investor calls?
Edit
Private credit & hybrid equity teams in PE houses (think MFs and quality upper MM) pay as much as an ASO with a better WLF (in the office 7 to 9pm normally, with some stints with banking-like hours during weeks leading to IC - from the places I know). However, you will end up losing on carry which will impact in some years. Of course this comes from my experience comparing 4/5 places and every position needs its due diligence.
Thanks! Any idea how to break into these places coming a M&A background? Or should I aim for some RX experience before?
The only buyside gig imo with good WLB and front-office level pay is probably Investor Relations. Then again, it's really dependent on which fund you're at; some treat it like mid/back-office and silo it away from investment teams, whereas other (usually the MFs) value it as front office and liaise with deal teams constantly
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