Just curious how early do you wake up and when do you start work?
And when do you typically finish? How often do you work late past 9 pm?
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Up by 7, checking emails by 8:30, in office by 9. Leaving office by 7/8, but working from home til midnight on a good day, 2 am on a bad day. 3-4am on a fire drill. If a deal closed or seniors are out for some reason, won’t have WFH work to do after leaving at 8. Rinse and repeat
What kind of shop do you work at
yuck
Up by 7:00, responding to emails by 8. At the office by 9, and stay until 7-8ish. On a busy day, still have to work until 12am. On less busy days, can wrap up by 8-9pm. Sometimes I try to fit in a 45 min workout somewhere inside of that.
What do you do in your role ?
Associate at a large direct lending and opportunistic debt investment fund.
What’s your day to day look like as an associate?
Dependent on how many deals are on the table and what type of deals they are. If we’re financing an LBO, we have less time to think about it (competitive market), and have to focus 70% of our time on it (assuming we want to put out a term sheet). If we’re looking at a Mezz note that we think is attractive, we sometimes have some more time to think about it.
Having said that, usually 40% of the job entails screening investment opportunities by building cursory models and putting together a 5-10 page analysis for the investment committee to review. Another 20% is extended due diligence and document review / managing closing. Maybe another 20% of time is spent on regulatory reporting and admin work, and maybe another 20% on portfolio management (checking on our portcos and updating models).
I work remote from 8:30-4:30 or 5 with an hour lunch. Wake up about 8:10 and have only really worked on a weekend or late very very occasionally if something comes up. Maybe one weekend every two months.
Trading maybe a bit different from the norm. I start at 5:30 am but usually wrap up by 3pm.
What do you do in trading ?
Wow 5:30?
That sounds like torture to me. Do you naturally wake up that early ?
I would hate waking up by 5:30 lol.
Energy Trader. & it's honestly pretty nice hours IMO. Get off by 3 and still have a good portion of the day. Also have weekends off
IB: up by 9:30, roll into office at 10, work until 11pm-2am
PE: up by 8:30, leave 6pm, remote from like 8-11 (3-4am on real bad days)
I'm on the lazier side but it hasn't effected much for me
Do you like the IB or PE schedule more?
Obviously the PE schedule is better in terms of raw hours worked and flexibility. Neither are fun when you're entering late-20s and want to live an actual life.
Up by 8:20 or so, slightly later if i am tired, responding to emails if i have any by then. At the office by 9:15 or so (on days we go in), and stay until 7-8ish, maybe later to get the meal stipend. On a busy day, still have to work until 11pm. On less busy days, can wrap up by 8pm or so, sometimes earlier. Haven't worked weekends yet unless urgent but meh, all in maybe 60 hours on average with less than 50% being actual work. That's what most people won't say, most of the time you're just waiting on stuff so you can meme and walk around and stuff, no one literally "works" 90 hour weeks lol
no one literally "works" 90 hour weeks lol
wait till your first live deal then get back to us
if you’ve worked on a live deal and this is still true, you are the .01% outlier
yeah guy uh, even on the live deal I scratch my balls/look at ass on IG/meme for a couple hours, it's just human behavior to not do that much labor lol
Usually aim to wake up around 8, be in the office by 9. If it was a late night that looks more like wake up at 9 and in the office at 10.
The pandemic definitely pushed my schedule back - I used to wake up at 6:45 and be in the office by 8, then I got used to sleeping until right before my first call of the morning. Doesn’t really matter as long as the firm’s ok with it since I’m going to stay up as late as I need to to finish my work anyway.
I typically aim to leave the office by 7, then log back on at home and work until 9-10 most nights, sometimes I call it at 7 if things are quiet.
At a west coast growing UMM (think Genstar, Francisco, Clearlake, etc.). Wake up around 6:30 to try to get to gym before office. Get in around 8:30. Most people leave around dinner time and finish up work at home (prob a post COVID phenomena). Up til whenever needed but on average 10/11 and responsive all waking hours. Weekends dependent on live deals but could be as little as 0 and as much as 16+ hour workdays
Get up at 6:30. Office by 8, and most week nights leave at 5:30 and continue working from home until like 9:30ish. Sometimes better and sometimes worse
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