How many people actually got on-cycle offers?
Feels like not many offers were handed out during on-cycle. Are firms hiring fewer people? Did most people get an offer?
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PE is going to suck this decade
Elaborate?
one example: past week I saw a ft/wsj/bloomberg article saying that Asian investors (LPs) are distancing themselves from investment funds and shifting towards investing directly in energy companies/projects (it seems that Asians are smart enough to understand that funds ripe investors off).
China/Japan are significant investors in US funds, so it may also impact negatively the US PE market.
Break it down for me.
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Ah yes, BX, KKR, and GA - the classic trio
congrats on GA
Did BX go??
Lol no. KKR did and idk about GA but BX did not.
A lot of my friends got offers, and a lot of them didn’t or sat out. Earlier recruiting cycles definitely benefits two groups of people: (1) hardos who grind PE prep their senior year, and (2) smart students who went to an undergraduate business program and did some prep.
Based on my limited sample size, those who got offers fit in one of those two buckets. The offers are definitely going out, but it’s just harder to get one; people who go on cycle are in buckets 1 or 2, and firms are holding open more spots for off cycle. In other words, it’s strong competition fighting over fewer spots.
How many do you think # wise?
So if you're not a hardo or smart, don't expect an on cycle offer?
Talk about stating the obvious, amiright
Well, when off cycle went later, there would be a much more level playing field.
An okay student from Wharton, Notre Dame, etc., who has taken several courses on valuation or PE is much more likely to get an offer today than a straight-A student from a liberal arts school. 6 months from now, I’m not sure that’s the case.
My point was that, today, either you grind or you did alright in an undergrad business program while building finance intuition. In the past, more spots were open, and more people had gone through enough of the banking learning curve to actually be competitive in on cycle.
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30-40 guessing
is this a joke lol
First years only - guessing lots of second years got offers as well. you think it's high or low?
Sounds about right, I’d probably peg it at closer to 20-30 given not every MF seat was filled.
YOU ARE SO WRONG LMFAOOOO.. U THINK UR ONE OF THE 30-40 BOIIII
definitely way more than 30, at least 100
Apollo alone hired 10
Across all groups or just PE?
The people saying 30 are probably off by a lot. 4 of the 1st year analysts in my group got offers, and we’re far from a large or strong group.
For MF?
Prob about 5 - 10 seats at each MF, only about 10 MFs went. Assuming they hired only 50-75% of the class.
Realistically only 75 offers made from every MF and that’s on the high end.
Some MFs have 20+ seats
Current associate at MF. Probably 40-50 offers went out on cycle (probably almost half of the CDR) in traditional corporate PE (not hybrid value, tac opps, etc.). Would estimate half in NYC and half in SF, and small bits in DC / Boston. That said - hiring classes will be much smaller. Even for BX BCP (private equity), rumor is they might only hire one person given 1) lack of deal flow and 2) analyst pipeline.
Probably 20-30 spots left for MF PE in New York
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