London vs. NYC PE Scene

Currently work in the HC group of an EU fund in NYC. Fund has a strong brand name in EU/LDN. I'm considering moving to London for family reasons - my wife is British, I am American - and was curious about the PE scene there. Work authorization would be pretty simple through a spousal visa. I am just finishing my first year in PE after 3 years of IB, all in the US. 

Curious about the following questions: 

  • What does the HC PE scene look like in the EU? Should I be thinking about switching groups to be more competitive? HC seems like a much larger private industry in the US vs. EU for obvious reasons. 
  • What is the pay discount in LDN vs. NYC? Know IB has a relatively steep discount - is the same true for PE? 
  • What is the culture like in LDN PE vs. NYC? My fund seems to have generally better culture than American funds (more time off, more relaxed seniors, etc., generally better WLB) and curious if this translates to broader EU PE.
  • Will I be a competitive applicant as an American who doesn't speak any European languages and has never worked on a European deal? 
  • Is there a difference between working at US funds with London offices (BX, KKR, WP, HIG, etc.) vs. working at EU funds (Apax, BCP, Astorg, GHO)? 

Thanks all - would appreciate any color! 

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are insights into your questions about the PE scene in London versus NYC:

  1. HC PE Scene in the EU:

    • The healthcare (HC) private equity (PE) scene in the EU is different from the US. While HC is a significant sector in the US, it may not be as dominant in the EU. However, there is still substantial interest in HC, especially in sectors like services and HCIT. The skill set from HC is broadly applicable to other industries, so switching groups might not be necessary unless you have a specific interest in another sector.
  2. Pay Discount in LDN vs. NYC:

    • There is generally a pay discount in London compared to NYC. This is true for both investment banking (IB) and private equity (PE). The exact discount can vary, but it's important to consider the cost of living and other benefits that might offset the lower base salary.
  3. Culture in LDN PE vs. NYC:

    • The culture in London PE tends to be more relaxed compared to NYC. European funds often offer better work-life balance (WLB), more time off, and more relaxed senior management. This aligns with your experience of better culture in your current EU fund.
  4. Competitiveness as an American Applicant:

    • Being an American who doesn't speak European languages and hasn't worked on European deals might be a challenge. However, having a strong brand name and experience in a reputable fund can help. Networking and demonstrating your willingness to adapt to the European market will be crucial.
  5. Difference Between US Funds with London Offices vs. EU Funds:

    • Working at US funds with London offices (e.g., BX, KKR, WP, HIG) might offer a more familiar working environment and potentially smoother transition. However, EU funds (e.g., Apax, BCP, Astorg, GHO) might provide deeper insights into the local market and different deal structures. Each has its pros and cons, and your choice might depend on your long-term career goals and personal preferences.

These insights should help you navigate your potential move to London and understand the differences in the PE landscape between the two cities.

Sources: Why I Left PE & Switched to the Public Markets, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/why-i-left-pe-switched-to-the-public-markets?customgpt=1, Working for European PE as an American, Q&A: European PE Professional, Can we start a thread on the pros and cons of different coverage groups from a work / career perspective?

I'm an AI bot trained on the most helpful WSO content across 17+ years.
 

Some thoughts below - hope this helps. 
 

  • Scene: really depends on the healthcare verticals. Plenty to do in pharma / pharma services / CDMOs - in some what the various countries here help vs the US where you have single regulation (i.e. generics suck in the US but in Europe you need to look at it on a country by country basis). I personally hate traditional healthcare patient services (all of the roll-ups around clinics) and many things where you take a somewhat binary risk based on reimbursement rates that are most likely paid by government in Europe. If you like the space - there is plenty to do and can definitely make a career out of it; just need to be mindful of the verticals you spend time on or get comfortable with the risks. 
     
  • Pay discount - it applies but many global funds have their comp set at a global level - so would try to understand how it works for your fund. My fund looks at our comp in USD (USD fund) and just applies some FX rate.
  • Culture varies by fund and even by team (i.e. is your senior guy from the US or not etc.) - so hard to give you a blanket statement that it’s better / worse vs NYC.
  • Languages - some funds care about it; others don’t - you have a better story than most given that your wife is from the UK. A deal is a deal - assuming the bank you worked at was decent (i.e. people would know about it) and your current fund is a good one you should find a job although it might take some time as the market isn’t necessarily as big as in NYC; also you might have to start again as an associate 1 or wait until VP (but then the number of roles shinks). 
  • US funds tend to pay better but be more intense vs EU funds; also be mindful of having a US IC - some funds just go risk off in periods of uncertainty and just refocus on the US. Understand who sits on the IC and their trackrecord of doing deals in Europe. 
 

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