MF/Top Growth Equity vs. MF PE
Hi fellow monkeys,
Currently 2nd year analyst at a MF (BX/CVC/H&F/KKR), and just received an offer at a MF/Top Growth Equity shop (BX/GA/TA/TPG).
I'd like to try out GE as excited about investing in fast-growing businesses / doing sourcing / less operational intervention, but thinking about exits in case it ends up not being the right thing for me.
Thanks all!
As an Associate at one of the top MF growth shops, I would say to stay in your seat (if able) unless you’re confident that growth will be for you. Some of these shops are more operationally involved than you think and it’s less exciting than the traditional top VC roles (Sequoia, Benchmark, etc.). The buyout / growth shops like TA, GA, TPG, WP, Summit, Insight, Vista all invest in relatively “boring” companies that have strong top-line growth.
Going to the growth shops at the Associate level also impacts your technical learning curve as the modeling is just less intense so from a self-selection standpoint, people just end up going to more tech / operations roles from an exit perspective vs. the traditional buyout shops.
That being said, all of the firms that have been listed are top-tier and I don’t think you’ll have any trouble convincing headhunters to get you HF / MF PE roles going forward. I would just say that the skill set that you learn is fundamentally different and less helpful for the more traditional investing jobs.
Very helpful, thanks a lot
Agreed with the bit in bold - hence my question below to OP.
Question: What do you mean by operational intervention in practice?
Closely driving eg cost reductions, buy-and-build strategy, financing decisions
Gotcha. Agree with Associate 3 in that case.
Summit, TA, GA certainly would have similar operational intervention, perhaps more buy and build and financing and less on cost reductions given the type of investing. But I consider them as 'growthy buyouts' rather more VC type (a la Sequoia, a16z).
Currently work at a top growth shop and turned down offers from large-cap MFs. I do think that from the lens of fast-growing businesses / doing sourcing / less operational intervention, growth equity does check those boxes significantly more than MFs.
1. Fast-growing businesses: Even if "boring", they are still 20-30%+ growth (at least)
2. Doing sourcing: You definitely start sourcing earlier (e.g., meeting CEOs at their HQs is something an associate would do at top growth shop vs only VP/Principal+ for large buyout)
3. Less operational intervention: Operational interventions are definitely a lot less intensive since its typically an already high-quality, high growth business and even if there are operational levers they are mostly centered on how to improve top-line which tends to be more interesting than cost-cutting
On the exit side, I typically see people going to tech-focused HFs // other top growth shops // top growth-stage VCs. So if any of that is compelling, then you are fine on the exit side. I chose growth over large-cap buy-out because I knew I wasn't interested in doing MF buy-out long-term so didn't really care that I couldn't do MF buy-out after.
Super clear, thank you! And exit ops sound very compelling to me.
To be clear, it is less technical given you are entering less banked processes and are spending more time building relationships with potential investments in order to avoid banked processes. There are definitely pros/cons to the decision and there would be cons for growth & cons for large cap buy-out. Really comes down to what you value more -- the comment I made above is in response to the value system you articulated in your original post.
I wouldn’t pay too much mind to the “growth equity is less technical” comments. Financial modeling is a low-level skill that you outsource after 5+ years in your career. You definitely want to understand how the drivers work and what good analyses/models should look like, but spending your 20’s learning how to fly through 20+ tab models is a waste of time (sorry WSO hardos). Plus, it’s not like you won’t learn modeling at growth equity shops - you definitely will once a deal goes live. You’re just spending the rest of the time talking to CEOs vs. banging out screeners on random CIMs that come through. Do you want to learn how to talk to Founders/CEOs or read CIMs faster? Your call…
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