(Personal trading) - Heaven forbid people who work in finance are interested in markets

Just wanted to rant. And maybe get some validation for my thoughts.

Worked entry-level buy side (PE) 2022-2024 and then took a break starting 2024 and went back to work in same industry couple months ago. During my break I traded freely and jeez the past couple months under trading restrictions have been making me so depressed. How am I supposed to make money outside of my salary invested in ETFs only. This makes me so sad. I was getting familiar with my portfolio and now my company restricts almost EVERY trade. so counterintuitive. The trading restrictions are making me want to leave finance for good. Idk

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It’s a common frustration among finance professionals, especially those who are genuinely passionate about markets. Based on the most helpful WSO content, personal trading restrictions are a widespread issue in the industry, particularly in roles like private equity, investment banking, and consulting. These restrictions are typically in place to avoid conflicts of interest, insider trading risks, and compliance violations.

Here are a few key points to consider:

  1. Why Restrictions Exist:

    • Firms enforce these rules to maintain ethical standards and avoid any appearance of impropriety.
    • They aim to protect both the firm and its employees from regulatory scrutiny.
  2. Common Restrictions:

    • Many firms limit trading in individual stocks, options, or other securities.
    • Some even extend restrictions to cryptocurrencies and derivatives, as noted in WSO discussions.
    • ETFs and mutual funds are often the only "safe" options due to their diversified nature.
  3. Coping Strategies:

    • Focus on Long-Term Investments: While it may feel limiting, ETFs can still be a powerful tool for building wealth over time.
    • Explore Alternative Investments: Look into asset classes like real estate, private investments, or even venture capital funds that might not fall under your firm's restrictions.
    • Engage in Paper Trading: If you miss the thrill of active trading, consider paper trading to refine your strategies without violating compliance rules.
    • Discuss with Compliance: Sometimes, firms allow certain trades with pre-approval. It’s worth checking if there’s flexibility for specific scenarios.
  4. Mental Health and Career Reflection:

    • It’s valid to feel disheartened, but consider whether this is a temporary frustration or a deeper misalignment with the industry.
    • If trading is your true passion, exploring roles in hedge funds, proprietary trading firms, or even transitioning to a personal trading career might align better with your goals.

Remember, you’re not alone in this struggle. Many professionals on WSO have shared similar sentiments, and it’s a balancing act between compliance and personal interests. If the restrictions are truly unbearable, it might be worth reevaluating your career path to find a role that aligns with your passion for markets.

Sources: Unemployed and living in parents' basement, losing hope, Trading Strategy from a Trader's perspective, 2019/2020 Sales & Trading Bonus Discussion, Q&A: ex-bank trader now running crypto hedge fund. questions?, Personal Account Trading Restrictions at MBB

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Was wondering the same. Came across a PE firm entirely prohibiting personal trading in securities including ETFs. Is this common?

 

Depends heavily on fund size. MFs have the biggest checks to write, so take privates are more prevalent (which triggers ‘do not trade’ lists given conflicts of interest). I’d imagine some funds have such a large public company target list that it’s easier to disallow it altogether. 

Other funds might just be conservative (or lazy) and not want to bother having a compliance person review hundreds of trade requests / setup  a compliance system to automate, so it’s easier to not permit it. 

On the whole, I’d say most MMs permit trading outside of a small restricted list, but not a hard and fast rule.

 

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