Seeking Advice: Second Undergrad vs. Target Master's for IB/PE Career

Hello All,

I've recently taken the first step toward my dream of breaking into IB/PE by moving to the UK. Now, I’m at a crossroads and would greatly appreciate your advice on whether I should pursue a second undergraduate degree at a target university or go for a target master's.

**A bit about me:** I’m 20 years old and on track to earn my first undergraduate degree next year with First Class Honours (1.1). However, this degree isn’t from a traditional on-campus program; it’s a partnership between ACCA and Oxford Brookes University, where you complete ACCA exams and write a thesis to receive the degree.

**Option 1: Target Master's**

One option is to aim for a 720+ GMAT score and apply for a target master's program. By then, I’ll have 1-2 years of work experience, though it’s unlikely to be at a Big 4 firm due to my lack of internships, on campus recruiting opportunities and a challenging job market. Even with a strong GMAT, I’m concerned that my non-target undergrad and the nature of my degree will hurt my chances of getting into a top program like LSE or LBS.

Even if I do get in, I worry that the one-year course won’t give me the edge I need for BB/EB IB internships. After the master's, at best I might end up at a no-name firm or, at worst, in a Corporate Finance role at a Big 4, with the added burden of MSc debt. Looking at other people's career trajectories, I think I might be able to achieve a similar outcome without the debt by working in the field for a 5-6 years.

Staying outside UK for programs like HEC Grande Ecole for 2 years is not an option.

I do not think I will have a serious shot at a top MBA as well given the background.

**Option 2: Second Undergrad at a Target University**

The second option is to take A-levels (which I don’t currently have) and apply to a target university for a second undergraduate degree as a mature student. I’d need to wait a bit since I would be subject to international fees, but as a mature student, I might have a better chance of getting into a top program. Universities like Cambridge, Oxford, and UCL have specific colleges/access programs for mature students, which could increase my chances.

I could access government student finance for undergrad rather than relying on private loans for a master's. Over the three years, I’d have better chances to secure quality internships and a shot at BB IB/MF PE. The downside is that I’d be starting university at 23 and entering the industry at 26, which is a bit later than most, but not unheard of, especially in un-structured IB recruitment in Europe.

**Conclusion:**

While I’m leaning toward the second undergrad route because I believe it offers better odds of reaching my goals, I want to make sure I’m not overlooking anything. I’m particularly concerned about keeping my options open for MF, as I know that once that door closes, it’s hard to reopen.

Coming from a background where no one knows about IB/PE, I’ve worked hard to get to this point, and I want to make the best decision to achieve my goals. I would really appreciate your insights and any advice you can offer.

Thanks in advance!

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and advice for your situation:

Option 1: Target Master's

  • Pros:

    • Shorter Duration: A master's program typically lasts one year, allowing you to enter the job market sooner.
    • Networking Opportunities: Attending a target master's program like LSE or LBS can provide valuable networking opportunities and access to recruitment events.
    • Focused Curriculum: The curriculum is often more focused on finance and investment banking, which can be beneficial for your career goals.
  • Cons:

    • Debt: Master's programs can be expensive, and you may incur significant debt.
    • Competitive Admissions: Given your non-traditional undergrad background, gaining admission to top programs may be challenging.
    • Limited Time for Internships: A one-year program may not provide ample time for securing internships, which are crucial for breaking into IB/PE.

Option 2: Second Undergrad at a Target University

  • Pros:

    • Better Internship Opportunities: A three-year undergrad program offers more time to secure quality internships, which are critical for IB/PE roles.
    • Government Student Finance: You can access government student finance, reducing the financial burden compared to private loans for a master's.
    • Mature Student Programs: Universities like Cambridge, Oxford, and UCL have specific programs for mature students, potentially increasing your chances of admission.
  • Cons:

    • Longer Duration: Completing a second undergrad degree means you will start your career later, around 26 years old.
    • International Fees: As an international student, you will be subject to higher tuition fees.
    • Age Factor: Entering the industry at 26 is later than most, but not uncommon, especially in Europe.

Conclusion

  • Leaning Towards Second Undergrad: Given your concerns about the competitive nature of master's admissions and the importance of internships, pursuing a second undergrad at a target university seems to offer better odds of reaching your goals. The extended time frame allows for more robust networking and internship opportunities, which are crucial for breaking into BB IB/MF PE.

Additional Considerations

  • Networking: Continue to build your network within the industry. Connect with professionals on LinkedIn, attend industry events, and seek mentorship from those already in the field.
  • Internships: Focus on securing internships, even if they are not at top firms initially. Any finance-related experience can be valuable and help build your resume.
  • GMAT Preparation: If you decide to pursue a master's, aim for a high GMAT score to strengthen your application.

Final Thoughts

  • Keep Options Open: While the second undergrad route seems more promising, remain open to opportunities that may arise during your journey. Flexibility and persistence are key in the competitive fields of IB and PE.

Good luck with your decision!

Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/should-i-do-a-phd-at-an-ultra-target-university-if-i-want-to-be-an-ib?customgpt=1, Thank you WSO Community! Q&A/My Story: Target --> State School --> Non-MBA Masters --> MM IB --> Lower MM PE, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/thank-you-wso-community-qamy-story-target-state-school-non-mba-masters-mm-ib?customgpt=1, IB -> PE -> MBA -> IB -> PE, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/ibd-sa-after-graduation?customgpt=1

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