Silver Lake / TPG / H&F / Permira etc

What have people heard lately about the tech-focused mega cap funds? Latest performance, associate experience (mentorship, deal exposure), promotion rate, anything else. 

I’ve heard mixed things about all these firms and I’m curious as I think about on cycle. Anything positive and negative would be helpful 

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know about some of the tech-focused mega-cap funds you mentioned:

Silver Lake

  • Focus: Renowned for its specialization in technology investments, Silver Lake is a top-tier name in tech-focused private equity.
  • Performance: Historically strong, with a reputation for executing large, high-profile deals in the tech space.
  • Culture: Known for intense work hours and a highly analytical approach. Associates often gain exposure to complex, high-stakes deals.
  • Mentorship/Promotion: While mentorship opportunities exist, the culture can be demanding, and promotion rates are competitive, as is typical for top-tier funds.

TPG

  • Focus: TPG has a broader investment strategy but includes a strong tech vertical. However, recent performance has been mixed.
  • Performance: Struggled with some large deals that underperformed, leading to negative IRR on their 2006 fund and single-digit returns on their current fund.
  • Culture: Positive feedback on associate experience, particularly in their San Francisco office. However, the firm has faced challenges with partner-level carry and fund downsizing.
  • Mentorship/Promotion: Associates report a decent culture, but long-term career prospects may be less ideal due to recent fund performance issues.

Hellman & Friedman (H&F)

  • Focus: H&F is a highly respected name in private equity, with a strong focus on tech and growth-oriented investments.
  • Performance: Consistently strong, with a reputation for disciplined investing and delivering solid returns.
  • Culture: Known for a collaborative and supportive environment. Associates often gain significant deal exposure and work closely with senior professionals.
  • Mentorship/Promotion: Positive feedback on mentorship and development opportunities. Promotion rates are competitive but achievable for top performers.

Permira

  • Focus: Permira has a strong presence in tech, particularly in Europe, and is known for its global reach.
  • Performance: Generally solid, with a focus on growth-oriented investments in tech and other sectors.
  • Culture: Feedback varies, with some associates noting a challenging work environment but strong deal exposure.
  • Mentorship/Promotion: Opportunities for mentorship exist, but promotion rates can be competitive, as with most mega-cap funds.

General Observations

  • Deal Exposure: All these firms provide associates with exposure to high-profile, complex deals, particularly in the tech space.
  • Work-Life Balance: Work hours tend to be intense across the board, with a focus on delivering results in high-pressure environments.
  • Promotion Rates: Competitive, with a strong emphasis on performance and fit within the firm’s culture.

If you're thinking about on-cycle recruiting, consider the specific culture and performance trends of each firm to determine which aligns best with your career goals.

Sources: Former PE associate's perspective on these "megafunds", Megafunds starting associates 6 months earlier, Q&A: Mega Fund Associate - Asia Pacific Edition, What’s the mega fund cutoff?

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TPG/Permira are doing a bit worse than the funds who invest solely in technology as they are generalist funds and are going to evaluated more so against other generalist funds vs. TMT only funds. LP's are largely solving for returns and diversification. The Silverlake/H&F/Vista/TB are more well known for being heavily tech and at least have the excuse of everyone who is a comp is also doing poorly.

 

Interned at an endowment and when the allocations were done to private markets, we looked on what they have exposure to for the sake of diversification (i.e. looking at if our private markets portfolio is too tech-heavy for example). Not sure if that's the case everywhere, but was under the impression it was.

 
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In terms of performance, based on latest fund marks and their overall exposure:

Silver Lake - sizzled, tech overweight, two shit-ish funds in a row, connections to Trump administration might save the day

Permira - cooked, tech overweight, Fund 7 is a stinker, the growth funds are dead

H&F - cooked, they haven't even started deploying XI, returns in last 3 funds are mid to shit. Kind of a joke "long-term partnering" & "concentrated bets" etc. to excuse bad performance & exorbitant fees. No hurdle rate too, that will surely go away

TPG - good & consistent performance

 

What do you think went wrong with H&F? Their earlier funds were really good 

 

Nothing changed - most of PE are snake oil salesmen, they dress luck as “edge” etc. but realistically all of them are levered beta (and especially at MF level) and sometimes you get clapped.

It is still a phenomenal place and I would pick it out of all the others for an associate stint, but when it comes to performance I guess they reverted a bit more towards their expected returns. Impossible at this scale to generate outsized returns.

 

Is the SL comment right? They own nearly 50M shares of Dell (check their 13F if you don’t believe me), and Dell is up 250% in the last 6 months. $300/share run up implies $15B in profits dollars created in 6 months…


Completely understand that they can’t realize all of that, and a lot of that could be luck or right place / right time, but those dollars generated are larger than most MF’s fund size and that’s one investment within a 6mo period…

 

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