Any advice/insight is appreciated. My main question is whether quitting my current role would be a red flag to potential employers. My gut tells me yes - it is better to stay employed, and I would be opening the pandora's box to whether I quit or was fired, etc. That said, my firm is highly dysfunctional, toxic, and frankly I find that staying here is actively detrimental to my future career due to a few factors that are not worth getting into. I have been told I've been doing great work, and can continue to progress at the company, but that is not something I would at all be interested in.
It is a tougher market right now for RE positions so I don't want to make life harder, yet at the same time, I am no longer learning at my role (several senior team leads departed leaving me as one of the most senior people on the team) and if I were to put in my notice and dedicate 100% of my time to recruiting, I would both have time to study other asset classes as well as have more time to network.
Any advice is appreciated - thank you!
Your gut is right.
Not worth it.
Find time to network and educate while remaining employed.
The hiring market is brutal.
Thank you - I've been trying to find humor in some events. To an outside party they'd be hysterical and cringe worthy. Will probably keep my head down and totally agree the market is brutal, I just need to keep at it.
This
I’m confused what the question is. If your job sucks, and you are miserable, obviously you should look for a new job. Obviously.
Apologies - it was whether quitting without something lined would be a bad idea. As a side note, I'm a long time lurker and would like to thank you for the value you add to these threads, both in content and advice
Don’t quit without something lined up. Finding the next thing could take a month or it could take two years.
I would not leave without something lined up. Had a friend do it last year for similar reasons and took almost a year to find something making half of what he used to.
That is brutal, and I am sorry for your friend. I don't have experience on the hiring side but I imagine the longer the gap, the harder sell it would be to say I took a gap year to "find myself". In my head, it would be a friendly head ups that I am quitting, decrease workload and train others, and then hit the pavement for a new career. Thank you for the help
The story is probably actually fine, I've been on the flip of it and hired people who did quit without something lined up. I think the main issue is it's really hard to find anything right now, and going without a paycheck for an extended period of time is worse than a crappy job.
Is there illegal activity? If so, that’s when you consider quitting. If not and it’s just an ultra toxic workplace then effectively quiet quit - just do the bare minimum to not get fired and use most of your time to recruit/network. If you can work from home at all it’s much easier to do.
Honestly i am facing the same thing. I was persuaded to take the first relatively small REPE job that came up, after getting laid off from REIB for 5 months. The whole team promised me so many things about growth and culture and etc, and I was anxious to take the first thing that came up, but after 2 weeks I totally regret it the whole environment has drained the life out of me. Being honest I actually like much of the work but I hate the environment. Constant yelling, shit pay even though the firm can clearly afford it, getting gaslit all the time by people with crazy egos who would have been terminated by HR in a proper firm. Even with lesser hours than IB i never faced so much stress and toxicity. None of the promises made during the interview process has come to fruition. I actually gave this role a fair chance and paused my other processes, was going to be difficult interviewing anyway with 5 day WFO, but with all the bullshit going on and constantly playing games with probation, I regret joining it, but it's been challenging to explain leaving a job to recruiters after just a few months. And i feel like my profile with an overly long gap just before this makes me trapped. Frankly I have thought about resigning without another job lined up, but when I remember how I felt back then I remind myself I have to push through. At this point I wonder if it'll be better if I just go and do a normal corporate job.
I agree with everyone else that it makes sense to have something else lined up first, but for the sake of answering OPs question, in general I don't think quitting is seen as a red flag. Everyone knows sometimes you just need out. Put together a good story and people will understand.
I did it 5 years ago. You can do it. It’s hard. It’ll suck. But be aware what you are getting yourself into before you do it.
I did this. Don't do this. Take a week long vacation and then begin networking.
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