Commercial Development
I am currently a freshman in college and looking to a big time developer one day. I know you’ll need experience working for a firm first . My question Is, it possible to become a development analyst out of college for a major development company or do you have to have had experience first?
Yes it’s possible but you have to be 1) lights out excel modeling and 2) demonstrate potential to be a producer one day. Majority of undergrads we interview are decent at either 1 or 2, but most of the time are just ok at modeling and show potential when it comes to 2. Maturity is critical to development because as a developer you aren’t a modeling jockey—you’re managing people and teams to execute multimillion dollar projects driven by a financial model that you ultimately put together. If we hire someone fresh out of undergrad they are a rare breed—most benefit from 2-3 years at an HFF or Eastdil on the equity/debt placement side. I spent 3 years in construction management and went for a full time MBA to make the jump, and am finally hitting my stride. Development for many is the goal, but the journey entails a variety of other roles that someday will add up though they may not be ideal early on. Get good experience, work with intelligent people, and prioritize learning / growth over salary—salary will come, and real estate is not a fast game. Best of luck, it is exciting to hear that you are asking good questions and seem committed to what is an incredible career path.
I really appreciate your insight . This helps a ton
It definitely is possible, but I think it is tougher than other industries such as investment banking because as with most "buyside" jobs, developers run lean and most don't have the resources to train you from scratch. Development is a local business, so although there are big firms like Tishman//Hines/etc... there are many "no name local developers" that compete with the brand name companies in their respective local markets. These "no name shops" usually don't offer training programs and usually hire development analysts with at least 1 year of experience, unlike investment banking where they hire and train hundreds to analysts each year. But you also don't need to go directly into development out of college. You could gain very relevant experience working in a job that touches on certain aspects of development and this will help you in your future development job and if you were to go off on your own one day; jobs such as debt/equity advisory (JLL, CBRE, etc..), Investment Sales, Lending, Any real estate investment shop, construction management. Experience in any of these verticals is 100% transferable to development. I have a friend who started as an architect and went to get his MSRE to learn the finance part and pivot to development. He's absolutely fucking killing it now and making bank because he has both the design/construction from his architect days and knows the finance part from his masters. He's literally every developer's wet dream, although this was a very long path (~5-6 years). So yeah, my point is that you don't need to work for a developer straight out of college and most don't
Thank you for your insight
Big name shops don’t train either
Very hard to get hired out of undergrad. Good dev shops run lean and a true development role requires to much base knowledge on different aspects - finance, legal, arch/design, construction, etc. to be able to teach you everything straight out of school. Personal opinion is best route would be to work for either a debt/equity team or investment sales for 1-2 years, then network your way to Dev analyst/ Assistant PM job. Could be a client of yours or through a recruiter, either way that first 1-2 years of experience on sellside will get you up to speed on terminology and how deals are made/closed, so you can provide some level of value to a Dev shop day one, while learning the other aspects you’ll be lacking on the job.
I'd recommend to either start at a brokerage or doing construction management for 1 to 3 years. That way you have some understanding either about how deals get put together, or how projects are built.
Gotcha . Thanks a lot for your insight
Try to find a local developer near your school and work your way into an internship. This will get you experience in development while you’re in school.
This was my path. I was fortunate to find a developer offering a $10/hour internship to college kids and I worked for this company during my last two years of school. The developer was a lean team but with a national presence and my main responsibility was underwriting new deals and a small amount of development project management tasks. The company had in house construction company and at the time I graduated, they needed more help on the construction side and offered me a Project Engineer role which I declined because I wanted to stay on the development side. Even with this experience, it was very difficult as a 22 year old to find an entry level development job at a different company. I was competing with 25-27 year olds who already had full time experience. After months of rejections, I finally found a role at another developer.
In my experience, the three developers I have worked for all really value knowledge of entitlements/permitting and construction for younger hires.
Thank you for your insight . I have about a month of school left so it’s time to grind and look for one
Got a job at a reputable local developer in a primary market out of UG. Majored in real estate finance in college. Cpgame is right about having modeling skills, wouldn't say mine were "lights out" but I understood the basics and could build a simple model from scratch. Future upside is key. Coming into development out of UG is a steep learning curve. I was essentially creating graphics and charts for 6 months while listening in on meetings and getting mentored by senior employees.
A company that values loyal employees/tenure will put time into mentoring a recent grad if they think you'll be with them long term. They will pay you below market because of all the time they will invest. I'm 2 years in and still below market pay but the gap is closing. As a senior in college I was super set on development but honestly if I got a job as a investment sales broker for 1-2 years then switch to development I think that would have been a good experience as well. Every role in the CRE industry provides a different perspective and developers like to have a diverse knowledge base from their team members.
Thank you for your insight
Can you share more about your experience? In a similar position. Will be joining reputable developer right out of undegrad and feel as if pay is below market, but am dead set on development and think I will be very very qualified in 5+ years at a still relatively young age. How have you seen this pay off for you?
Congrats that’s awesome! Honestly don’t sweat pay too much in your situation. Landing a development role out of UG is rare. In a couple years if you’re still underpaid you can leverage your experience at a reputable developer to get higher pay. I started at $55k with a minimal bonus now at $70k- going to get a massive bump in the coming months. If it’s not enough, I’ve been doing searching in advance and can land a role as a senior analyst at other reputable firms that pay around $110k all in.
Entry level Development positions are definitely lower paying than other RE industries. Really there is not a ton of money as a salaried employee in development until you’re in a more senior role. IMO, it’s better to be 22-23 at low pay and prioritizing experience than it is when you’re 26.
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