Eastdil training vs other brokerages (CBRE, Newmark, etc) - Adam Spies/Doug Harmon

Seeing their recent deals at Cushman & Wakefield got me thinking what the difference is between Eastidil (where they were before) and other big shops in terms of training. From what I understand the people who start at Eastdil (out of school) are from top schools and work IB hours their first few years.

Does anyone have any insight into what sets them apart besides that from working there or knowing someone that does?

 

What about training? What is Eastdil training like to make their team so far ahead of the majority of brokers.

 

Their success isn't (strictly) a function of Eastdil training, but of who they met along the way and opportunities they had early in their career.

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Adam Spies and Doug Harmon are the 2 best brokers in the business and were paid close to $100 MM a piece to come over from C&W. Working for them trumps any other brokerage experience by miles.

As always, the reputation of a specific group determines the quality of your experience as much as the name brand value of the firm. Certain hard hitting groups like Dustin and Jordan out of Newmark crush it. Eastdil is always a safe choice.

EDIT: Also knowing someone who works on the Harmon/Spies team...the juniors get paid far, far better than the average Eastdil guys.

 

Stolly is such a fucking weapon, god that guy is cool. This post is so accurate though, but you'll still get shit on for not believing ES rules all. There are so many teams I'd choose over anything at ES, especially post buyout. NP carries as much cache as ES - that's facts.

ES is great, but hitters want to eat what they kill. Harmon/Spies bonus was absurd, but they're making significantly more now free of salary+bonus.

Your experience is going to be totally team driven, and really the associate - VP makeup. A good team at Colliers is going to be a better internship than getting killed at CW and learning nothing.

 

No way $100M each. Do you have an article or something bc that’s ridiculous. Maybe $10-30M each or somewhere there but no ones giving $200M for them to come. Anyone confirm this?

 

with their stature / relationships with the institutional community, why wouldn't they just set up shop themselves and keep the 30%? a la liontree or michael klein in the IB realm. i can't imagine C&W's brand name or back office admin functions being that valuable

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I think a lot of folks underestimate how big of a pain in the dick running that back of the house stuff is, and weirdly some of the most high-profile brokers suck at running a team / company. They are also doing a few deals with brokers in other cities (i.e. high-rise deals with Given in SoFla). Cushman's platform isn't great, but they're getting paid well to make it better with limited downside; also, a lot of institutions won't do deals with brokers that aren't under a major flag (not saying that's wrong or right but just the way it is sometimes).

 

I think this brings up an interesting question. Do you think it possible to network your way on to a Harmon/Spies, Stacom/Shannonhan, Stolly type of team as an analyst? Or is it best to get analyst experience elsewhere and try to switch to that team?

 

I literally applied on CBREs site and got a call from Darcy’s group for an opening. Just apply to nyc positions at CBRE. Didn’t have the experience so only went one round.

 

yeah, i networked with/know multiple people on that team. some of the nicest people i've met (my only interaction with them was when I was looking for a job). they hire on an as-need basis and weren't looking at the time i was looking to start so i ended up getting a different job. but based on my experience i think if you were in the right place at the right time it could definitely be done. pretty long hours though, obviously.

 

Not sure if anyone else listened to NYPEN’s Capital Markets Webinar today with the Newmark team mainly Stolly and Jordy.

First time listening to them speak and holy hell, Jordy sounds like the biggest doushe. Literally like a frat bro. Dustin though sounds more normal and more sophisticated.

“Like dude, we totally killed it last year with over a billion in transactions, dude.”

 

Hey guys, may have an opportunity with one of these brokerage teams as an intern in the next 6 months in my second year of a masters program. This team is top few in a major market, they’re mostly doing deals in the South, Carolinas, Midwest for multi and not major markets like NYC/LA (still substantial deal flow of $4-5 billion+ a year). End goal is an owner/developer, how do they look on these deals in these tertiary and secondary markets but still deals up to $1 billion on a single transaction and they’ve closed many in the hundreds of millions per transaction. They’re doing many deals a month if not more than 1 a week. Curious how this would be with the way multi is going in those markets? Still great deal flow and I am an intern and it’s a great name.

 

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