The analyst through associate years are awful. When does it end?

Just ranting here but feel like the timeline from analyst to VP (or comparable level) has gotten longer and longer over the years.

The analyst and associate years are just miserable. Not that I or anyone provides enough value to deserve a quicker timeline but man does it suck being at the bottom of the totem pole for so long. Rant over.

19 Comments
 

You don't even say what is awful about it. Hard to respond to something this vague. 

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 
Most Helpful

It was genuinely not that bad. I made money and learned a lot. 

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 
Funniest

Bro is in real estate, awful to them is working til 9pm a few days in a row. 

Why are you bragging about working late into the night? Sounds awful. 

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

The path to VP/Director has not gotten longer - it’s gone back to normal. People weren’t usually VPs at 27 pre-2020 unless they were a broker and just had the title externally. Promotion cycles sped up massively during the pandemic - more deals, more firms, more seats. Some of those promotions were justified as it was impossible to hold back truly talented individuals during that period. But now that the industry is right sizing, we’re just converging back to “normal”. Which means analysts and associates have to compete to get to the next level. 

 

In all seriousness - VP level can be worse. You are responsible for all the modeling (if you have a bad analyst or associate you just need to do it yourself if you’re on a live deal) and you need to be able to negotiate all the docs and close. AKA you do everything. The push from associate / senior associate to VP is also challenging because you are trying to prove you can get promoted. Analyst years - sure the hours suck but you have no responsibility. At the VP level - my hours still suck. I just have more flexibility with where I put them in. 

 

Analyst years are boring as hell after your first 18 months. I’ve learned all I can 2.5 years in and I don’t see myself being promoted to associate until December. Associate does basically the same thing I do as I’ve taken on those responsibilities. I work 60+ and hours a week and sometimes all weekend on excel sheets and PowerPoints. I keep thinking CRE isn’t the answer for me and may want to go to leveraged finance but don’t wanna start at the bottom again.

 

Quod ullam accusamus asperiores aut ut. Dolor sint ut optio neque et. Dolore sint exercitationem voluptatem in rerum placeat cupiditate possimus.

Vero sed non deserunt et quia cupiditate. Voluptas a soluta dolore occaecati dicta sequi quam.

Voluptatem distinctio aut voluptas provident quam. Modi maxime molestias possimus tempora.

Career Advancement Opportunities

July 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.4%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • JPMorgan 01 98.3%
  • Guggenheim Partners 01 97.7%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

July 2026 Investment Banking

  • Moelis & Company No 99.4%
  • Evercore No 98.8%
  • Morgan Stanley 01 98.3%
  • BMO Capital Markets 13 97.7%
  • Banco Santander 01 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

July 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.4%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • Morgan Stanley 06 98.3%
  • Goldman Sachs 01 97.7%
  • JPMorgan 01 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

July 2026 Investment Banking

  • Vice President (15) $434
  • Associates (46) $258
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (8) $210
  • 2nd Year Analyst (22) $179
  • Intern/Summer Associate (13) $156
  • 1st Year Analyst (80) $150
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (73) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
kanon's picture
kanon
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
98.9
10
Mimbs's picture
Mimbs
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”