Are All Non-Targets Created Equal?

If a school is ranked in the top 25-50 range of business school rankings, but is not a target school, does that give you a leg up against other non-targets, or do IB/ER/PE/HF recruiters typically draw fine lines between targets and non-targets?

Kind of a stupid question, that I think I know the answer to, but basically what I'm trying to get at is, does everything come down to networking once you're in the non-target territory?

I'm referring to undergrad business schools, btw.

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Not all equal. There really isn't a hard and fast line between non target and target schools. Many schools that aren't considered targets by many people still have some degree of recruitment. A bank may not make the effort to go out there and interview people but they'll still have a resume drop, phone interviews and give a few people superdays.

 
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reformedNot all equal. There really isn't a hard and fast line between non target and target schools. Many schools that aren't considered targets by many people still have some degree of recruitment. A bank may not make the effort to go out there and interview people but they'll still have a resume drop, phone interviews and give a few people superdays.

Also, one more question I forgot to address is the non-traditional recruitment process, completely outside of OCR.

For example: Candidate A and Candidate B have identical resumes, other than their alma maters. Both apply to 100 IB/ER/PE/HF jobs and are equally as good at networking. Will the candidate that went to the better school get more responses, simply because it is a school people have heard of, or is alma mater irrelevant once you're outside of the non-traditional recruitment process?

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Absolutely not.

They are called semi-targets, and some have outstanding placement for top banks. The fact is that a finance major at Indiana, Illinois, or Notre Dame can easily get the same exact position as a HYPS grad with relatively the same amount of effort.

 
BTbankerAbsolutely not.

They are called semi-targets, and some have outstanding placement for top banks. The fact is that a finance major at Indiana, Illinois, or Notre Dame can easily get the same exact position as a HYPS grad with relatively the same amount of effort.

I'd call Notre Dame a little bit more than a semi-target. http://www.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/ugtable_3-20.html

I'm referring to schools more along the lines of Baruch/Fordham/most good state schools.

And thanks for the helpful responses thus far guys.

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BTbankerAbsolutely not.

They are called semi-targets, and some have outstanding placement for top banks. The fact is that a finance major at Indiana, Illinois, or Notre Dame can easily get the same exact position as a HYPS grad with relatively the same amount of effort.

I'd call Notre Dame a little bit more than a semi-target. http://www.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/ugtable_3-20.html

haha. Don't go by those rankings. To say that Mendoza is better than Harvard and Wharton is ridiculous. Notre Dame is good, but it's overrated.
 
BTbanker The fact is that a finance major at Indiana, Illinois, or Notre Dame can easily get the same exact position as a HYPS grad with relatively the same amount of effort.
Not true. Though your comment on semitargets is applicable, there is a significant difference between targets and semi-targets. For example, a bank can leave 35 spots in its analyst class for targets and 20-25 for semi-targets and non-targets combined. Remember though that there are maybe 6-10 targets for a bank, and maybe 15-20 semi-targets - just using best guesses. (There are effectively an infinite number of non-targets haha.) So the simple probabilities are strongly in favor of the target school, even compared to semi-targets. Add in recruitment/networking events and ocr, and the HYP kid can get in with much less effort.
 

Target literally just means the bank does on campus recruiting there. So, CalTech is not a target at most banks, but I doubt you would having trouble getting an interview from there. Not all of the best schools are targets and not all of the best schools are targets.

 

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