BC MSF Placements
Is anybody familiar with the placement stats on BC's MSF program? I know the school website lists hiring companies but I'm trying to find out about placement location i.e. how well BC places in NYC.
Anybody know?
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I do not understand why some of these MSF programs are so secretive about their placement statistics. I would think 99% of their applicants place the most value on placement statistics when selecting a program (at least I am).
Wondering the same thing. Makes no sense. UF's website you can see the student resumes for crying out loud
I have a feeling that all these specialized masters (MSF,MiM,MIS etc) are just making money for the business schools , while the placements (and value) are very poor
I have a feeling that you don't know what you're talking about...
I have the same feeling.
Seriously marcus, put a sock in it.
I am on one of these programs + I have enough friends who are particularly in MSF and I see how the campus recruitment goes... For now I have seen only a few programs which publish their employment statistics (and BC is one of them,good for you) what speaks by itself.
First, you're not making sense...
Second, if anyone (you) is going into an MSF/MMS/MiMs and thinking that the program will place them then they're going to be in for a rude awakening. Even if you're at a top-tier school, which IMO BC is not, you're probably going to have to hustle to make sure you place. I have friends at all of the top tier programs and I hear things that are both good/bad about them; I'm not saying they don't have their flaws, but you're definitely waaaayyyy off base here.
BepBep12 is exactly right.
The MSF/MiM/MMS will give you an extra year to network, with the added benefit of having a bigger brand on your resume.
Marcus, most MSF applicants/students have researched every aspect of the MSF and know much more than you in this area. So seriously, do yourself a favor and be quiet.
Please,dont tell me what to do and I will not provide you with directions where you definitely should go.
No matter how much you have researched - we are not talking about the networking,added benefit,brand name etc... The overall employment placement is not fantastic , that's why most of these programs do not publish it and even those who do - have nothing stellar on the list. A job an average MSF/MIS/MIM graduate gets is accessible in the same way by an average business undergrad. That's what I wanted to say and this is how it is.
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This logically doesn't make sense. If a business UG could get the job they want they wouldn't go to an MSF. This also fails to realize that many MSF applicants and students went to schools with limited OCR and alumni at best. For these students all the main MSF programs are a brand increase and provide much better OCR.
I know a kid who got a GS job from Vandy they he couldn't have gotten from his business UG. A guy at BarCap who couldn't have gotten it from his UG. A guy at Harris Williams, at Miller Buckfire, at BMO, UBS, WF, Stifel, etc. This isn't mentioning the people I know who got into all types of FLDP's. Who went on to do PhD's. On and on.
Alright bud.
Bep, don't argue with him. You can't reason with barbarians.
Insulting people in the internet is , of course, the best way of getting a dream job lol. Nice career planning, keep it up!
What he said was kinda dumb/ignorant, but your responses to him came off a bit too emotional/knee jerk angry. Most of the programs that the WSO crowd applies to publish placement stats/median starting etc. $62-65k median starting salaries, some BB, some MM, some boutiques, and an assortment of F500. Yeah, it's kinda pointless if you've got a 3.8 at a target and aren't autistic, but they're not really meant for those people.
Yeah I overreacted, and for that I apologize.
Boston College doesn't really post placement stats since a good portion of their program is full of working professionals. It is a PT, at night MSF. There is information on where some past graduates have placed. Just look at OCR recruiting for the UG school and firms in the area that have BC alumni. That is a good gauge.
Placement stats for MSF programs are needed and helpful, but not very relevant. Why? Because of the nature of students going into the MSF programs. Quite frankly, many students blow their opportunity at another shot because they party too much or use the program as a 5th year. They also do not have experience which makes it difficult to obtain a job. So for many MSF programs the bulk of student get jobs after they graduate rather than before.
Many MSF programs also have a lot of international students which are harder to place. Even MIT has a bifurcated placement statistic.
OSU has career info. BC has career info. Nova, Duke, Florida, CMC, all have career info. UIUC and Purdue has some information as does Rochester. Yes, some are more transparent than others, but there is information out there. Also, keep in mind, it is hard to keep track of students upon graduation because many schools have separate offices for these things. You might be asking admissions for placement information, but maybe career services deal with it and there is a disconnect.
You get out of an MSF what you put in. All the programs I know about have good classes, teachers, brand names, recruiting and alumni. It is ultimately up to the student to take advantage of these things.
Anthony is spot on. Even if you go to a top MSF program like Vanderbilt, Villanova, or WUSTL, you still need to network. I have a friend at Villanova and have spoken to several current students and alumni at Vanderbilt, and the ones who got offers (top MM and BB) got those offers either through networking or because they had some relevant internships that got them a first round from OCR.
From talking to kids who went from top MSF to top MM or BB, they all say the kids that got no offers are 100% at fault for not preparing, not having relevant experience, etc. And Anthony is not lying either. I have spoken to several of the people who got offers at the firms he listed.
That internship experience is what worries me to death with my liblawl arts degree. I just fear going to school and coming out jobless. Villanova's MSF is one of the programs I am interested in as well.
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