Negotiating title for VP role?

For context, I did 2 yrs IB > 4 yrs MM PE > MBA (current)

Currently going through post-MBA PE recruiting. Targeting VP roles for a specific strategy. Received inbound from a fund on my target list "hiring a post-MBA role." However, during initial convo they said this would be a senior associate role. They asked me to speak with the rest of the team and complete a case study. 

Given my experience (and current processes w/ other firms recruiting explicitly for VP spots) I am considering withdrawing from the process / don't want to waste my time.

Is it worthwhile to try to negotiate with them for a VP title or is that useless? Appreciating '24-'26 has been a tough market for VP recruiting (both for laterals and post-MBA). However, the market seems to be turning around and picking back up.

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I’d focus more on the role and career trajectory than the title. 
 

  • Does SA get carry?
  • Is comp in-line with VP/post-MBA at other spots?
  • Is responsibility in line with VP (no longer modeling; not a glorified 3rd/4th year associate)?
  • How long is this step in the progression? Does VP exist too? Then what?

    If diligence checks out, I’d continue as there’s a dearth of post-MBA seats. If it’s a strong opportunity and math is compelling, I’d put titles aside. 

     

 

Don’t really understand the advice above of basically doing diligence to see if the role they baited and switched you on is actually the bait and not the switch…. feels pretty retarded use of time. Spoiler alert: it’s not the bait!!

I’d probably string them along and try to get an offer as leverage or just drop out. 4 years in MM PE is already enough time at the bottom of the stack. 

Little older than you (ignore title). Seen a few guys take SA role post-mba and get stuck at that level for awhile.


 

 

Truth of the matter is that it's now fairly common for many of the more desirable firms post MBA to hire people as senior associates for 1-2 years before the VP promote. Given how many firms promote without MBA and how bloated VP levels are, there is a massive supply and demand problem where there are far too many IB or consulting to PE profiles at Harvard / Stanford MBA compared to how many seats there are at the more desirable PE platforms that people want to join. 

 

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