What are my chances at NYU Stern MBA for Fall 2025 in Round 1 with a GMAT waiver and no work experience?

Hello WSO,

I'm planning to reapply to NYU Stern's MBA program for Fall 2025 and would greatly appreciate your insights on my situation. Here's a summary of my background:

  • I applied to NYU Stern MBA for Fall 2024 during Round 4 in March with no work experience and a GMAT waiver but was rejected in May.

  • The GMAT waiver was granted after I submitted a comprehensive explanation letter just before my MBA application in March.

  • I graduated with a B.A. in Economics from the University of Miami in 2013.

  • I completed two investment banking internships in 2014.

  • I shifted to pre-med at my parents' suggestion and completed a post-baccalaureate program at Columbia University in 2017.

  • I also accumulated 130 clinical hours at New York Presbyterian, working alongside ER physicians and shadowing surgeries.

  • I was accepted into medical school in 2020, but I could not attend due to COVID-19 and health complications that required surgery.

Given that Round 1 is generally perceived as less competitive than later rounds, do you think I have a better shot this time around? Additionally, I am wondering if I will be granted a GMAT waiver again, considering it was approved previously. Any feedback or advice on improving my chances would be highly valued!

Thanks in advance for your guidance!

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Based on previous WSO threads, here are some insights and advice regarding your situation:

  1. Round 1 Application:

    • Applying in Round 1 is generally advantageous as it is perceived to be less competitive compared to later rounds. Schools have more spots available and are looking to build a diverse class, which can work in your favor.
  2. GMAT Waiver:

    • Since you were granted a GMAT waiver previously, there is a possibility you might be granted one again. However, it is crucial to ensure that your explanation letter is comprehensive and clearly outlines why you should be considered for the waiver.
  3. Work Experience:

    • Lack of full-time work experience can be a significant drawback for MBA applications. While your internships and clinical hours are valuable, MBA programs typically look for substantial professional experience. Highlighting any leadership roles or significant responsibilities during your internships and clinical hours can help mitigate this.
  4. Academic Background:

    • Your academic background is strong, with a B.A. in Economics and a post-baccalaureate program at Columbia University. Make sure to emphasize any academic achievements and relevant coursework that align with your MBA goals.
  5. Unique Experiences:

    • Your shift from investment banking to pre-med and the clinical hours you accumulated are unique experiences that can differentiate you from other candidates. Highlighting how these experiences have shaped your career goals and prepared you for an MBA can be beneficial.
  6. Addressing Gaps:

    • Clearly explain the gap in your education and career due to health complications and how you have overcome these challenges. Demonstrating resilience and a clear plan for your future can strengthen your application.
  7. Additional Advice:

    • Consider seeking strong recommendations that can speak to your potential for leadership and advancement.
    • Engage in community service or leadership activities to bolster your extracurricular profile.
    • If possible, gain some work experience before reapplying to strengthen your application further.

In summary, applying in Round 1 can improve your chances, and there is a possibility of obtaining a GMAT waiver again. However, addressing the lack of full-time work experience and clearly articulating your unique experiences and career goals will be crucial in strengthening your application.

Sources: Ask Natalie from Accepted about Business School Admissions, Ask Natalie from Accepted about Business School Admissions, Ask mbaMission about Business School Admissions, Is it worth going to study an Msc finance with no work experience in finance?

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Seems like you lack work experience and the recommendations that come with work experience. Not to say you won’t get in, but these are probably your challenges.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

How did you like the Columbia post bacc pre-med program? I was looking at that a few years ago and especially liked the linkages straight to med school if you have a high enough GPA. Is that what you did - did you have to take the MCAT? Also heard it is pretty hard - you must be smart.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Columbia's post-bacc pre-med program was the most challenging and trying time of my life—hands down, no social life and, in my honest opinion, more demanding than roles in IB. Regarding the linkage programs, they guarantee admission into a handful of medical schools. While most still require the MCAT, the required scores are not as high as usual. Additionally, there are some lesser-known schools within the linkage program that don’t require the MCAT at all.

Oh and to answer your question, yes I did have to take the MCAT because my GPA wasn’t high enough to qualify for linkage, I’ll admit.

I’ll be honest, I regret ever having gone to Columbia, and I was forced into it by my parents. Initially, they promised to fund me all throughout; however, when I completed the program, they changed their tune and told me that I was out on my own. 
 

I would have been just fine without Columbia, and I regret not having put my foot down. At the time, I was building the foundation in my career, after all, I did land two IB internships, I would have found a job if only I just had more faith in myself and tried harder, but I was only 24 at the time, so I was far too weak to fight back.

As for why you were looking into Columbia’s post-bacc, I'm curious—were you thinking about becoming a doctor at some point?

As for being smart, I may be, or I may not be, but luck hasn't been on my side, which really makes me think. After all, what’s the use of being smart if you're struggling financially? It seems like society only values money, which is a sad truth to reckon with.

 
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Columbia's post-bacc pre-med program was the most challenging and trying time of my life—hands down, no social life and, in my honest opinion, more demanding than roles in IB. Regarding the linkage programs, they guarantee admission into a handful of medical schools. While most still require the MCAT, the required scores are not as high as usual. Additionally, there are some lesser-known schools within the linkage program that don’t require the MCAT at all.

Oh and to answer your question, yes I did have to take the MCAT because my GPA wasn’t high enough to qualify for linkage, I’ll admit.

I’ll be honest, I regret ever having gone to Columbia, and I was forced into it by my parents. Initially, they promised to fund me all throughout; however, when I completed the program, they changed their tune and told me that I was out on my own. 
 

I would have been just fine without Columbia, and I regret not having put my foot down. At the time, I was building the foundation in my career, after all, I did land two IB internships, I would have found a job if only I just had more faith in myself and tried harder, but I was only 24 at the time, so I was far too weak to fight back.

As for why you were looking into Columbia’s post-bacc, I'm curious—were you thinking about becoming a doctor at some point?

As for being smart, I may be, or I may not be, but luck hasn't been on my side, which really makes me think. After all, what’s the use of being smart if you're struggling financially? It seems like society only values money, which is a sad truth to reckon with.

I was considering an MD/PhD at one point and then just possibly an MD. I’m interested in psychiatry/neuroscience. What kind of doctor did you want to be?

The MD/PhD required 1 year in the hospital so I spent 8mo in various neuroscience roles until I wasn’t into it anymore. Research moves so slow and it was a bit more boring than I originally thought it would be, so then was thinking of just an MD for psychiatry.

I studied for the MCAT and I was good at some topics like Physics, but was frustrated by other subjects like biology (lots of memorization, less intuition than Physics), biochem and organic chem. I didn’t have all the prereqs and thought I could just study for them in the MCAT and do well and apply for med schools that didn’t require the prereqs, but my MCAT studying was just lackluster.

I took a Kaplan MCAT review course, but it was not comprehensive at all. I wanted a top MCAT score, not just mediocre. I decided that I needed to take the full courses that I didn’t take in college, so I enrolled in a Biology course at a local college. The professor had a horrible score on ‘rate my professor’ and after a week I was learning nothing in the class and decided to drop the course.

Then I found out about the Columbia post-bacc pre-med program. It looked like just what I needed, especially with the linkages that didn’t require the MCAT. I researched the program extensively and read all kind of reviews on Student Doctor dot net. The program seemed easy to get into and extremely difficult to obtain top grades. I also read there was a biology professor in the second year that was absolutely screwing people.

The other thing about Columbia was the cost. It was a lot of money. My Dad said he would pay for it all, but I was receiving backlash from my siblings about it so didn’t let him pay. Then I saw a finance position open up at Columbia and I thought I might be able to get free tuition with it, but when I went in to the interview, they told me the position had just been filled.

I’m still intrigued about being a psychiatrist, but the amount of work to get there is massive. And then, I could make it all the way and sit in front of a person and give good advice and medication to them all for them to ignore my advice and not take the medication. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. Maybe someday I will try the Columbia post-bacc premed program when I am older, but am interested in other things for now. And I find finance very interesting. I did have a lot of good experiences on my journey as I’m sure you had some, but I’m also thinking of an MBA and genuinely like business subjects significantly more than the subjects in premed and med school.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

•       2021: Received COVID-19 vaccination in February and underwent kidney stone surgery in May. Later in the year, explored opportunities in real estate.

 

•       2022: Obtained a real estate license, attempted to launch an Airbnb short-term rental business, and worked in real estate sales, neither of which proved fruitful.

 

•       2023: Briefly pursued a career in software engineering, which was ended by significant layoffs in the tech sector.

 

•       2024: Actively pursuing a career in finance, specifically targeting roles in investment banking and private equity, despite encountering challenges in securing a position.

 

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