So you hear the chatter of your seniors gathering "ammo" to take into that discussion, why they should have gotten more, how they're going to move to a competitor etc..
But when does that become you?
Full disclosure, I have no plans to kick up a fuss, whatever I get.
I'd think it'd just start at the VP level, but get more serious in Director/Big Title - land. Analyst and associates are rarely irreplaceable.
Don't ask, don't get it's pretty fucking easy. If you are useless though, and on the verge of getting fired, probably not the best time... I asked for more getting into associate, and my expectations. Why the fuck should you wait? Unless as I said above, you are just shit.
Oh, and don't tell your boss you are going to move to a competitor - if I am your boss, I'll seriously consider about underpaying you for this.
Does it really work that way? Let's say your a trader, got a very good year, but you get very little bonus in exchange. You just argue with higher tp people and expect a bigger bonus paid? Or what
Not sure about trading but in any job, if the points are put well, and the employee has contributed, the bonus may change. One needs to have very strong reasons and impact during the year to be successful at doing this, though.
I would think if you're not directly generating revenue then you really couldn't make a convincing argument.
when you are directly responsible for bringing in revenue you will have the privilege to argue your case. If not, you are in no place to negotiate as your role is more on support and viewed as a cost center.
My theory is that you ever only get two opportunities to argue about/discuss compensation: a) when you're being hired; and b) when you're ready to leave. As such, it's not a function of seniority, IMHO.
You put it beautifully. Totally agree.
The second I sign my contract
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